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Offline Fineus

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Goodbye 256 Bit
on: September 16, 2003, 03:15:13 pm
This one is simple. I was just playing a mission with a nebula in it and noticed the standard "rainbow" effect on the 256bit .PCX images.

Can this be removed by upping the image color?
 

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Re: Goodbye 256 Bit
Reply #1 on: September 16, 2003, 03:19:47 pm
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Originally posted by Kalfireth
This one is simple. I was just playing a mission with a nebula in it and noticed the standard "rainbow" effect on the 256bit .PCX images.

Can this be removed by upping the image color?


256-bit images?!?!?! :eek2: :eek2: :eek2: :eek: :eek: :eek2: :eek2:

That must be around 4 quintillion colors, dude! ;)

EDIT: This is what windows' calculator has to say:

[q]1.1579208923731619542357098500869e+77[/q]
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Offline kasperl

Re: Goodbye 256 Bit
Reply #2 on: September 16, 2003, 03:20:10 pm
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Originally posted by Kalfireth
This one is simple. I was just playing a mission with a nebula in it and noticed the standard "rainbow" effect on the 256bit .PCX images.

Can this be removed by upping the image color?


this has been talked about an awfull lot, and people are working on it.
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Goodbye 256 Bit
Reply #3 on: September 16, 2003, 03:29:36 pm
Well, Direct Surface support IS already available......

http://freespace.volitionwatch.com/fsscp/staffplan.php?ID=10

I don't know if this is what you are looking for, but it might just do the job ;o)

Flipside :D
 

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Goodbye 256 Bit
Reply #4 on: September 16, 2003, 03:30:50 pm
he surely means 256-color. :lol:
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Re: Re: Goodbye 256 Bit
Reply #5 on: September 16, 2003, 03:32:46 pm
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Originally posted by Sandwich


256-bit images?!?!?! :eek2: :eek2: :eek2: :eek: :eek: :eek2: :eek2:

That must be around 4 quintillion colors, dude! ;)

EDIT: This is what windows' calculator has to say:

[q]1.1579208923731619542357098500869e+77[/q]


Egads! He must've meant 256-color.
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Goodbye 256 Bit
Reply #6 on: September 16, 2003, 03:34:56 pm
:)
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Goodbye 256 Bit
Reply #7 on: September 16, 2003, 03:35:46 pm
no, he means 256-bit. we need to change it to windows true color: 16 million-bit.

okay, thats enough making fun of thunder for now :D
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Reply #8 on: September 16, 2003, 03:40:11 pm
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Originally posted by Carl
...windows true color: 16 million-bit.


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Offline Woolie Wool

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Goodbye 256 Bit
Reply #9 on: September 16, 2003, 03:41:36 pm
That number would probably choke my Athlon XP.
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Goodbye 256 Bit
Reply #10 on: September 16, 2003, 03:45:01 pm
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Originally posted by Woolie Wool
That number would probably choke my Athlon XP.


That number would probably choke any computer in existence today.
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"The very essence of tolerance rests on the fact that we have to be intolerant of intolerance. Stretching right back to Kant, through the Frankfurt School and up to today, liberalism means that we can do anything we like as long as we don't hurt others. This means that if we are tolerant of others' intolerance - especially when that intolerance is a call for genocide - then all we are doing is allowing that intolerance to flourish, and allowing the violence that will spring from that intolerance to continue unabated." - Bren Carlill
 

Offline Fineus

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Goodbye 256 Bit
Reply #11 on: September 16, 2003, 03:47:56 pm
Ok ok, you know what I meant :P

Anyway, yes, looks like the answer's being researched which is nice!
 

Offline Rictor

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Reply #12 on: September 16, 2003, 04:26:46 pm
Thats what I said like 2 days ago ;) ;)

Hope this gets implemented, its one of the most noticable bits of old code that is remaining
 

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Reply #13 on: September 17, 2003, 12:30:39 am
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Originally posted by Flipside
Well, Direct Surface support IS already available......

http://freespace.volitionwatch.com/fsscp/staffplan.php?ID=10

I don't know if this is what you are looking for, but it might just do the job ;o)

Flipside :D

Work this with interface 2 ?
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Goodbye 256 Bit
Reply #14 on: September 17, 2003, 03:49:45 am
Everything that uses a .pcx can have a .dds instead. ANIs, on the other hand, can't.
 

Offline FreeTerran

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Reply #15 on: September 17, 2003, 05:41:30 am
Ok how can i put alpha channels an an interface screen ? or better how make i an dds file for the interface ?
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Goodbye 256 Bit
Reply #16 on: September 17, 2003, 10:21:09 am
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Originally posted by Fry_Day
Everything that uses a .pcx can have a .dds instead. ANIs, on the other hand, can't.


Is that DXT1 or DXT5? Or does it matter?

(IIRC, DXTx is .DDS right?)
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Reply #17 on: September 17, 2003, 10:37:20 am
DXT1, DXT3 and DXT5 are fine. DXT2 and 4 are pre-multiplied alpha formats, and are therefore unsupported.

Edit: Just to clarify, a .DDS file can be with any DXT compression.
 

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Reply #18 on: September 18, 2003, 04:25:01 pm
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Originally posted by Sandwich

That number would probably choke any computer in existence today.


You are underestimating the power of NASA and their stuff:)
They sent men to the moon, and they will discover the Vasudans. :)
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Reply #19 on: September 18, 2003, 09:11:55 pm
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Originally posted by TopAce


You are underestimating the power of NASA and their stuff:)
They sent men to the moon, and they will discover the Vasudans. :)

Hate to break it to you but the space shuttles were still using 8086 components. By the time we discover the Vasudans, NASA *might* have gotten around to making the jump to Pentiums and pocket calculators. :p ;)
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