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Offline Carl

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on: September 16, 2003, 03:32:42 pm
We could have a button you could push that'll lock in your speed, and allow you to rotate while still going the same speed and direction i.e. Tachyon: the Fringe. IIRC some shivan ships can do this, but only the A.I. can use it. good idea?


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Reply #1 on: September 16, 2003, 03:48:21 pm
*seconds this*
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Reply #2 on: September 16, 2003, 03:50:12 pm
Sounds quite handy to me! Useful for those 'Check your six!' moments. And it makes sense that the GTVA would investigate the ability to be as manouverable as the Shivans :)

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Offline Nico

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Reply #3 on: September 16, 2003, 03:50:29 pm
that's wing commander straffing, and yeah, that would be cool, if only to make destroying capship turrets easier :)

shivan ships don't do that, they can strafe... her, that's not a good name after what I just said :p. they can strafe like in a FPS, and you can too btw, give an X speed to your ship in the tbl, there's two keys to control that on the numpad, don't remember which ones. plus and enter in cockpit view will control the vertical ( Y speed ) strafing in cockpit view, at least, I remember that :)
toyed a lot with those when I was working on my Descent campaign
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Offline Flaser

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Reply #4 on: September 16, 2003, 03:59:28 pm
Actually you can already use strafing in both vertical and horizontal directions, and I'm not sure, but I think you can go reverse too.

BTW if we really want stuff that resembles going in space I'm afraid we have to go I-War style and make newtonian physics.
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Reply #5 on: September 16, 2003, 04:06:38 pm
Well, the only physics involved with this style of 'rotation' is a little bit of vector maths when you take your finger off the strafe  to work out how quickly you start moving in the new direction. I think that was how Tachyon did it anyway :)

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Reply #6 on: September 16, 2003, 05:23:13 pm
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Originally posted by Carl


real physics give me huge boner:D


Quote
Originally posted by Sandwich
*seconds this*


Really...? :raisedeyebrow:
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Reply #7 on: September 16, 2003, 05:49:10 pm
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Really...? :raisedeyebrow:
I'd doubt that we really would like to know.
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Reply #8 on: September 16, 2003, 05:54:38 pm
That was meant to be more of a sarcastic tone, but I guess that isn't really obvious... :-/
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Reply #9 on: September 16, 2003, 05:59:35 pm
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Originally posted by Carl
real physics give me huge boner:D


 

Offline Flipside

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Reply #10 on: September 16, 2003, 06:03:26 pm
ROFL

Please, not in a thread titled 'Cruising' ;)

j/k!

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Offline Robin Varley

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Reply #11 on: September 16, 2003, 06:04:56 pm
I seem to remember feeling like that watching the Halo videos.


Apparently you can get therapy for it.
 

Offline Fineus

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Reply #12 on: September 16, 2003, 06:06:41 pm
Well, since Halo is gold for the PC - I to may be lost to it.

Or not, I''ve got willpower right here.

I'm going to get some coffee...
 

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Reply #13 on: September 16, 2003, 06:18:31 pm
:blah:


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"The very essence of tolerance rests on the fact that we have to be intolerant of intolerance. Stretching right back to Kant, through the Frankfurt School and up to today, liberalism means that we can do anything we like as long as we don't hurt others. This means that if we are tolerant of others' intolerance - especially when that intolerance is a call for genocide - then all we are doing is allowing that intolerance to flourish, and allowing the violence that will spring from that intolerance to continue unabated." - Bren Carlill
 

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Reply #14 on: September 16, 2003, 09:02:52 pm
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Offline Stealth

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Reply #15 on: September 16, 2003, 10:13:03 pm
you mean like be traveling in one direction, but be able to turn, etc.?  so you can be moving backward, etc.?  it would be fun, but it doesn't make sense to me...

if you're trying to stick with the "physics" of the game to an extent, then this would be impossible... and if you do this, you may as well have a "slide left" and "slide right" key... as well as make "z"  not only decellerate you, but move you backward as well... like in Descent 1-3 :D
 

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Reply #16 on: September 16, 2003, 10:15:19 pm
Um... let's leave the physics alone and focus on the engine effects.

Funny how all the things we want now are purely asthetic...
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Offline terren

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Reply #17 on: September 16, 2003, 10:29:24 pm
so there is no way to just give some ships this 'continue on vector' function?  I think it would be sweet for a few ships, probly awsome for interseptors.  that's the way I'd want it implamented, on a per ship basis.
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Offline Carl

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Reply #18 on: September 16, 2003, 10:54:04 pm
I'm not talking about just being able to turn, here. i mean the engine will turn off and you'll continue going whatever speed you were going before. go play tachyon.
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Offline Nico

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Reply #19 on: September 17, 2003, 03:37:06 am
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Originally posted by Stealth
you mean like be traveling in one direction, but be able to turn, etc.?  so you can be moving backward, etc.?  it would be fun, but it doesn't make sense to me...

if you're trying to stick with the "physics" of the game to an extent, then this would be impossible... and if you do this, you may as well have a "slide left" and "slide right" key... as well as make "z"  not only decellerate you, but move you backward as well... like in Descent 1-3 :D


would be possible: just turn that antrigrav engine thinguy all the ships seems to have off, the ship will go on on its current vector, at current speed, and from now on it can flip in any direction it wants w/o modifying its course. sounds perfectly... no, can't say realistic :doubt:... well, sensible to me.

as for the slide keys, as I said above, they've been there the whole time, you know, the day you bought your FS1 copy, in fact.
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