[Gloriano]

A thread at Gearbox Software's forums claims that nVIDIA has been banned from future DirectX developments:

Nvidia's NV38 has been dubbed as a substandard card by team dx. This means that DX will not include NV in it's developement range for DirectX 10. Team DX made the decision "as a favor to the graphics industry". Team DX claims that NV violated their partnership agreement by changing the DX9 code with their latest set of drivers as caught by Xbit labs recently. This violates the licensing agreement and conpromises DX's quality in order to make it seem as if ATi and NV cards alike display the same image quality. This can only be fixed by reinstalling dx9b. So by all means, Do Not Download Detonator 50 Drivers!!!

www.teamxbox.com
here orginal thread link added

[phreak]

ruh-roh[/scooby-doo]

[Setekh]

Ouch... the original thread's here, btw.

[karajorma]

Well if they have been cheating on their benchmarks and generally buggering up DX just to make their stuff look better then they deserve a penalty.

I wonder if MS will remember that they did virtually the same thing to Sun with Java though?

[mikhael]

This is the sort of thing that can make me switch to ATI.

[diamondgeezer]

I might have been using an ATI now if they hadn't been sold out when I went to buy the card

[Agent]

I heard from a friend that NVIDIA actually quited producing Graphic Crads because they lied that their latest model was DX9 compatabile. This was proved thanks to HL2 benchmark which showed that NVIDIA-s latest card wasn't DX9 compatabile unlike ATI-s cards. So bye bye NVIDIA and hello to ATI's new technologies. I knew that it wasn't a mistake to buy an Ati card. NVIDIa really acted like a b***** by signing contracts with game companies so that only their video cards would show best performance. I mean, how g** is that? They deserve this and probably even worse.

[magatsu1]

do they do anything other than g/cards ?

[karajorma]

They make pretty nice chipsets for motherboards. Those of you with an NForce 2 board will know what I mean They do a fair few other things too IIRC.

[aldo_14]

They do the nforce2 sound chip for motherboards, IIRC.

Although i'm not sure I'd trust a set of forums as being entirely trustful as a news source.... i mean, pretty much everyone you find online has their own agenda, so I'd be inclined to wait for an offcial confirmation.

Of cours,e if it was true, it could kill nVidia.  and piss me off, cos I chose their cards because the games under the 'Play the Game Prgoramme' are suppossed to work much better on nVidia than ATI cards, which was a large reason for me choosing the FX5600 over the Radeon 9600.

[Ulundel]

I personally prefer nVidia cards because of their price/power relation. 16 yo kiddos like me without 500 bucks must aim at low-end cards - and that's where FX5200 series come in.

Have you any idea how much is it possible to overclock that chip? And it costs about 80-85 bucks!

[vyper]

[q]Have you any idea how much is it possible to overclock that chip?[/q]

No, and I have the 5600 so I'd like to know

[Ulundel]

Originally posted by vyper
[q]Have you any idea how much is it possible to overclock that chip?[/q]

No, and I have the 5600 so I'd like to know

Well, the default settings (for FX5200 Ultra) are 325MHz for GPU and 650 MHz for memory. I've managed to get the CPU frequency to 400 which is a bit better that Radeon 9800Pro and memory to 750 which also exceeds the 9800Pro chip. I'm pretty sure that I could get those two even higher but I don't wanna put too much pressure on it.

So, the only thing it lacks is that magical "horsepower" which comes from the design I suppose.

[Shrike]

Heh, you guys should read the thread.  They basically call him a liar, and allegedly he has a history of nVIDIA bashing.

So stop running around like beheaded chickens.

[Grey Wolf]

Originally posted by Ulundel
I personally prefer nVidia cards because of their price/power relation. 16 yo kiddos like me without 500 bucks must aim at low-end cards - and that's where FX5200 series come in.

Have you any idea how much is it possible to overclock that chip? And it costs about 80-85 bucks!

No! That's where my Ti4200 falls! Beats the 5200 hands down, and all it lacks is DX9 support

And if MS was actually dumping nVidia (which it won't because nVidia still has a sizable portion of the market share), it would be a bad thing. The greater the number of competitors, the better it is for the industry.

[wEvil]

It's a pity the openGL ARB didn't take the same stance - that way games etc. developed on the openGL API would actually run on cards developed by the people that DESIGN openGL.

Whats' the point in screwing with a standard to commercially jump the gun?  it's a standard so you don't get 5 billion screwy little extensions that don't work on half the hardware out there.

nVidia had this coming for a long time, i hope they learn to play fair or someone does a 3dfx on them.

[Hunter]

This the start of a long road to Nvidias falls? ala 3DFX?

[Woolie Wool]

What happened to 3DFX, really? All I know is that one day, nVidia bought up 3DFX and poof, no more Voodoo cards.

[Grey Wolf]

Basically, yes. 3DFX was loosing money, nVidia bought it, and had the employees design GeForce cards.

[Turnsky]

it's little wonder that the next XBOX that will be built, will have a ATI graphics chipset..

nVIDIA has had a major falling out with microsoft it seems...