[Baron MacDoblin]

I smell my armpits. Does that count?

[Bobboau]

doese you'r pit roma make you feel good

[Razor]

Drugs are bad!

I don't do drugs
I don't drink (not even beer)
I don't smoke

[Bobboau]

this is what I'm like sober, I need no intoxicants!

[Liberator]

Ditto, I'm messed up enough as it is.

[aldo_14]

Originally posted by 01010


I do a lot of research before I even think about trying a drug, as well as speaking to people that have had previous experience. Not only that but I always have people either with me or nearby when I ever do mushrooms, though I will admit to the dubious quality of some of the hash I get (definitely not cut pure sometimes).

The problem - I think - is that people are still finding new side effects to drugs...even cannabis - I remeber a few studies cropping up that highlighted an increased risk of developing schizophrenia (sp?), and more recent stuff indicating that the potential lung damage was actually as high or even higher than cigarettes.  

I think every drug there is messes with your brain chemistry (producing excess amounts of dopamine, for example), and i'm not sure anyone has an idea of what the long term consequences are... I mean, whilst a lot of drugs are older than you;d think (morphine/cocaine used to be sold as a home remedy in something like the 1920s - IIRC, the Sears catalogue sold hypodermic needle kits, and also opium), I think it's only recently (and with more widespread use) that people have started to seriously study the effects.  

I'd say that the heavily addictive drugs are still a bigger risk than cannabis, but I'd also say that I'd rather see all drugs upgraded, and cigarettes made class C(+).

Incidentally, my next-door-neighbours-across-the-road got nicked for dealing..... they had an entire happy forest (30+ fully grown cannabis trees) in their garage.  

[Petrarch of the VBB]

I have a liking for the smell of Antisepctic disinfectants, and I'm sure a lot of people round here must be drinking the stuff. I used to work in a shop that sold it, and I was having to refill the shelf several times a day.
Nobody needs that must antisepsis.

[Sandwich]

This thread worries me. Really.

[Martinus]

[color=66ff00]The world health organisation once did a range of tests to try and find out how damaging cannabis is to the pysche and the body, it rated lower risk than alcohol. (you will have a difficult time finding the data though as it was promptly swept under the carpet by countries that have hard-line stances against cannibis).

Personally I'd have cannibis any day over alcohol which I think is far more dangerous (how many people have you ever heard of being attacked by a person off their face on cannibis?) alcohol related attacks are frequent. If alcohol was discovered today I can guarantee you that it would immediately be placed on the illegal substances list.

I don't drink alcohol and I'm almost 100% sure that in my lifetime will never touch the stuff, I'm an extremist you might say but my extremism hurts no-one and actually improves my state of mind.

As for the other drugs; I have a lot of friends who have tried weed (in various forms), ecstasy, acid, shrooms, cocaine and a few I'm sure I don't know about. I've seen a lot of the physically manifested side effects of most of them quite frequently. I don't criticise my friends as I believe in freedom of choice but I'm resolute that I'll never do any of those drugs myself, I have a hard enough time trying to figure out how reality works without skewing it into something new.
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[Black Wolf]

I'm a social drinker, but that's about it. I've got a really good sense of smell, so pot and tobacco smoke give me headaches (all the side effects don't help either), and I've seen what happens to mates of mine on the harder stuff. Not something I'll be putting myself through...

[J3Vr6]

"Early in the mornin’
Risin’ to the street
Light me up that cigarette
And I strap shoes on my feet
Got to find a reason
Reason things went wrong.
Got to find the reason why my money’s all gone.

I got a dalmation
And I can still get high.
I can play the guitar like a mother ****ing riot.

Life is too short so love the one you got
Cause you might get run over or you might get shot."

So true...  And one of the best albums to listen to when you're stoned  Should be easy for most of you to figure out who that is.  That and Tricky, Portishead, or any breakz.

Anyway, I think most things are fine in moderation.  The problem is that not many people have the willpower to stay moderate.  I, for one, do not have that great of a willpower.  That's why I'll never try coke or heroin.  I won't try anything that's overly addicting cuz if it's too pleasurable I know that I'd do it again.  My senses are what makes my willpower weak.  Anything that makes me feel good is what makes me fall.

[J3Vr6]

One thing they'll say about cannabis is that if you're a regular daily user that you'll suffer from chronic depression by the age of 30.  From my experience (as I'm a couple years from 30) and knowing friends who are worse smokers than me, I'd say it's probably true.

*gets depressed and looks for his pipe*

[Fineus]

I agree about the smell factor - although oddly I enjoy the smell of weed (I even did before I tried it, and I should add that I only tried it when I was ready to - made a point of saying no untill I was ready and I made it that far... it's important to ensure you have a strong resolution before dabbling with drugs. At least it's important to me).

Tabacco on the other hand smells aweful. I also frequently get headaches and coughs as a result of being around smokers (of anything that isn't weed) apparently. It's led to more than a few arguements at home since as I said my mother smokes a fair bit. Personally I think that if weed should be illegal then tabacco certainly should. Weed smokers have been amongst the nicest people I've ever met (generalisation, but I've never met anyone who was unpleasent while smoking weed). Cigarette smokers on the other hand are incredibly thoughtless about thier habbits. It's illegal to drink in public here in England (I think) but it's not illegal to smoke. Odd, no?

[IPAndrews]

I tried cake once. It's a "made up" drug which contains no natural ingredients.

[Martinus]

[color=66ff00]Heheh Too much Brass eye IP?
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[diamondgeezer]

Isn't that the one Brass Eye got bollocked for? That was one hella funny show. For those not in the now, a spoof news show convinced dozens of celebrities and politicians to warn their viewers about the dangers of 'cake', a new designer drug which was of course pure BS

[kasperl]

mmm, well, i hate the smell of both Tabbacco, in cigarettes, pipes and cigars, though pipes aren't that bad, but weed stinks terribly, i had some guy trying to annoy me by blowing the smoke from his joint in my face, and it just smells terribly.
i do recognise the smell of weed pretty quick. once when my mom and i where walking around in a bigger city, and we walked past a coffee shop she pointed it out, so i knew when someone was smoking the stuff.

[Gloriano]

when i was 19 one of my friend used drugs but after i did beat him he didn't use anymore

[01010]

Originally posted by J3Vr6
"Early in the mornin’
Risin’ to the street
Light me up that cigarette
And I strap shoes on my feet
Got to find a reason
Reason things went wrong.
Got to find the reason why my money’s all gone.

I got a dalmation
And I can still get high.
I can play the guitar like a mother ****ing riot.

Life is too short so love the one you got
Cause you might get run over or you might get shot."

So true...  And one of the best albums to listen to when you're stoned  Should be easy for most of you to figure out who that is.  That and Tricky, Portishead, or any breakz.

Anyway, I think most things are fine in moderation.  The problem is that not many people have the willpower to stay moderate.  I, for one, do not have that great of a willpower.  That's why I'll never try coke or heroin.  I won't try anything that's overly addicting cuz if it's too pleasurable I know that I'd do it again.  My senses are what makes my willpower weak.  Anything that makes me feel good is what makes me fall.

Sublime, how aptly named.

Bradley Nowell had the soul of a poet and the guitar skills of a legend.

Not too keen on Portishead or Tricky but Massive Attack (Mezzanine) is THE perfect album to chill out too.

Moderation is the key and I do smoke too much and I am aware of that, (not that I need this to stop me doing it but) having seen first hand the effects of both Heroin and Crack I can tell you now that that is an avenue that I will never even contemplate.

Originally posted by aldo_14


The problem - I think - is that people are still finding new side effects to drugs...even cannabis - I remeber a few studies cropping up that highlighted an increased risk of developing schizophrenia (sp?), and more recent stuff indicating that the potential lung damage was actually as high or even higher than cigarettes.  

The potential for lung damage study was a farce. They ASSUMED that smoking a spliff is as bad as smoking X amount of cigarettes and based a half assed "scientific" study on it. It's complete mis-information and uneccessary in my book (thats not to detract from the fact that it COULD cause cancer, I think smoking anything gives you that risk). Cannabis wasn't the drug linked to schizophrenia either, that lies with the psychadelics (Mushrooms, LSD, Mescaline) and ONLY if there is a genetic history of mental illness within the family.

It makes me laugh that tobacco is legal despite having NO redeeming qualities and actually containing three or four poisons (cyanide, arsenic, nicotine) as well as tying up the NHS with the millions of smoking related diseases. In fact, it was scientifically proven that cannabis is one of the least toxic substances that you can ingest and you'd need to ingest twice your own body weight to poison yourself mildly with it.

[an0n]

Originally posted by Maeglamor
[color=66ff00]Heheh Too much Brass eye IP?
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That show was awesome.

Status Quo sat there going "Remember, kids. Have some Nonce-Sense".

OH! And the 'Paedoph-Isles' thing. And the photos, those were so f*cken funny......