[Gloriano]

i was long ago  drained  because i was realy busy but that was more than 2 years ago

[Martinus]

Originally posted by Flipside
My own advice is  make your own conclusion, the Internet has a nasty habit of being a more available version of 'The guy down the pub'

[color=66ff00]Oh yeah, I sooo get that, half of everyone will say yes, the other half will say no, the third half will say maybe.
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[Black Wolf]

Originally posted by Maeglamor

[color=66ff00]That's rather interesting, I have to admit that I know very little about art and literature (realtively speaking) I restrict myself to reading scifi on the whole which I like but know is limiting. As for art I'm one of those people who 'knows what they like' but I'd look at some of the more abstract works and think 'that's a bit dumb', more from lack of understanding I'm sure.
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I'm not so big on art myself, but recently I've been able to understand how to see art, which has helped. My understanding of art, especially abstract art, is that you've got to look at it uncritically, and see what it does for you. It's very much about personal response - how a particular piece makes you feel, makes you think bout etc. It can also hep to know a bit about the artist, when they lived, what nationality, any serious influences on their lives etc. etc.
Literature is similar, but generally has more of a defineable message to it, but that message does vary from person to person, again, determined by personal reactions.

[01010]

Originally posted by Black Wolf


I'm not so big on art myself, but recently I've been able to understand how to see art, which has helped. My understanding of art, especially abstract art, is that you've got to look at it uncritically, and see what it does for you. It's very much about personal response - how a particular piece makes you feel, makes you think bout etc. It can also hep to know a bit about the artist, when they lived, what nationality, any serious influences on their lives etc. etc.
Literature is similar, but generally has more of a defineable message to it, but that message does vary from person to person, again, determined by personal reactions.

I find the same with music, especially instrumental pieces as they're not as open and shut as a vocal piece can be.

I always think that a good piece of art will attach itself to you, even if you don't understand why.

[diamondgeezer]

I don't think I really had much of a goal in life until recently. I took a degree in geology because I wanted to know where the planets came from, but I eventually realised that I didn't want to do it for a career. Once I realised that becomming a pilot officer was within my grasp, I suddenly focussed and now everything I do I think of in relation to that goal.

Speaking of which, I've got an interview with the Navy office in Brum soon... I bloody hope I pull it off...

[Martinus]

Originally posted by diamondgeezer
I don't think I really had much of a goal in life until recently. I took a degree in geology because I wanted to know where the planets came from, but I eventually realised that I didn't want to do it for a career. Once I realised that becomming a pilot officer was within my grasp, I suddenly focussed and now everything I do I think of in relation to that goal.

Speaking of which, I've got an interview with the Navy office in Brum soon... I bloody hope I pull it off...

[color=66ff00]Best of luck mate.

I did electronic engineering for a year which was bloody interesting so interesting in fact that I realised that I'd never want to have a day in day out job at it, nothing like repetition to put you off something you like.

I spent two years doing computer science which I hated, I can fix any windows based box but I despise the business end of it and I realised that I can pick and choose what I wish to learn about it from the internet. Unfortunately it seems you can't touch computing these days without having to deal with bloody business.
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[diamondgeezer]

Originally posted by Maeglamor
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[color=66ff00]Unfortunately it seems you can't touch computing these days without having to deal with bloody business. [/color]

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Oh, absolutely. This is one thing that put me off the geology - they kept saying 'most of you will end up in jobs doing geological surveying' i.e making maps of mud patches they want to build houses on and so forth. They really failed to inspire me as to my future after graduating.

[Odyssey]

That's why I'm seriously considering teaching. It's one of the few careers where all you have to worry about money-wise is where the department budget goes.
And I know plenty of ways to save money...

[diamondgeezer]

Eh? I take it you don't live anywhere near London then, where teachers can barely afford a box to live in...

[Odyssey]

Wages were never really all that good, true. But remember - teachers are in demand. They haven't stayed low, really.

[Flipside]

I work in a teaching provider, which is like 'college for the non-college-compatible' if you see what I mean.
It's rewarding sometimes, I'll grant you, but to be honest 99% percent of the time it is hard work and stress for 8 hours solid, and you can only hope you've given the poor sods more of a future than packing boxes or swiping credit cards in a supermarket

Still, despite all this, I'm still there, so there must be something I enjoy

Flipside

[Odyssey]

What is it that you teach?

[vyper]

The solution to all this is rather cynical:

Choose to study subjects which you are the most efficient at, and whic h will earn you the most money. Then, during your free time learn of the other areas of interest.

[Odyssey]

Money is never really an issue to me, and I doubt it will become one in the future. Hell, I'd put up with living in a tent all my life if whatever I was doing was fun.
I think the fanaticism with efficiency and money in modern society is what sticks people in 2-hour commutes, and jobs that obsess their life, giving them plenty of money that they have to schedule infrequent breaks to do anything with, and even then they're worrying about what they'll do when they get back, and if they lost reputation with their employer for taking a break.
I'd hate that kind of life.

[Martinus]

Originally posted by Odyssey
Money is never really an issue to me, and I doubt it will become one in the future. Hell, I'd put up with living in a tent all my life if whatever I was doing was fun.
I think the fanaticism with efficiency and money in modern society is what sticks people in 2-hour commutes, and jobs that obsess their life, giving them plenty of money that they have to schedule infrequent breaks to do anything with, and even then they're worrying about what they'll do when they get back, and if they lost reputation with their employer for taking a break.
I'd hate that kind of life.

[color=66ff00]aint that the truth!
Frankly money can get stuffed, if I have enough to get by I'll be very happy. Anyhow I don't work with money in mind, I work for the satisfaction that I'm doing a good job and perhaps helping people out.

Remember, even if you win the rat race you're still a rat.
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[Odyssey]

And if you lose the rat race, you expended a lot less effort getting where you are!

[Flipside]

I teach computers mostly, a lot of my work is in the Admin office, and I'm not a fully fledged tutor, still in training, but my job is partly to teach the trainees basic computer stuff, Word, Excel, filing etc. We use an NVQ course, simply cos it lets the trainees learn something they will actually be doing in a job rather than a load of theory

Flipside

[Odyssey]

Ah right. I was planning on going into teaching Tech and ICT. After all, in ICT lessons, I usually end up teaching everyone everything anyway, since the teachers suck ^_^

[Flipside]

LOL I had exactly the same problem at college, I used to finish programming my little Pascal routine in about 15 mins, then I'd bother to comment it, then I'd spend the rest of my time helping everybody else

Good luck if you decide to do it, but be warned, be prepared to take more punishment than reward, it's unavoidable, but the reward is worth it

Flipside

[Odyssey]

Punishment tends to make me try harder, so it can't be all that bad ^_^
Thanks, anyway