[Star Dragon]

THAT model was deleted right after I posted.. Sorry...

   I honestly don't think it's the model anyway. I think it's MY computer or rather TS3.2  After all ther eis NO explanation for the lockups. After each step I need to save in case the final work gets screwed AND in addition to that I can't even hit EXIT without it locking up and crashing I think since it keeps the last file used in memory that fact or some related quality is messing with the save file, so it ends up getting corrupted and the light portion associations get screwed...

  This is a serious setback for me and my projects as I just learned HOW to turret correctly for single parts... That and I was so looking forward to arming ships I used to consider unusable cause of lack of appropiriate cap weapons...

[Redragon]

Lookin good, just make sure proper credits are given...

[Star Dragon]

Someone will shortly give you a welcome beam and the nickel tour...(I would but my links aren't working for now).

   Credit is always given as due. A quick look through the ENTIRE thread indicates the majority of models are conversions by Ludi, and some others come from Feral Yards (both have given persmission). Some individual ships need to be secured, but only if they end up being used. Any WIP shots including them are for personal use only and NOT an official mod file. Official credits will be published when all final mod files are gathered and packed in the Campaign Vp file.

   Wow just realised I'm getting close to finishing my 2nd year. Though this project was officially started some 8-9 months ago, I've been thinking about it ever since I got here. It's a really good feeling to see some thing you've visualized take form and become substancial.

[Redragon]

I just had a quick look through the thread and I saw a few of my ships in there without credit given to me. Don't get me wrong, I'm not whining or complaining, anybody that has dealt with me knows that I'm generous when it comes to that stuff. I'm just saying that I know lots of people and mods that get in a lot of trouble for that stuff. Its happened in the BC community, Taldren, everywhere. There was a Star Trek mod for Homeworld 2 that just got shut down because of that. I'm glad that you're helping out the community by contributing and I don't want you to get screamed at by people thats just what I'm saying. It becomes a nightmare...

Anyhow, good job on what you have done already and keep up the good work.

[Star Dragon]

If you don't mind can you compile a list of the ships in question and I will look into it...

For now just in case people were wondering THIS is the official CREDIT LIST so far: (always in the process of adding more)

Little_ludi (secured permission for mass conversions of A2/BC/SFC3 ships) this is like 80% of the mod's models

Thulls111 (admin of Feral Yards/SFC series ships -Gorn/romulan/lyran/hydran ships [mainly])

Hugh Henderson (3 orion Priate modern vessels)

Mathew Frizzel (The Sortex, Dvas, Romulan NIghtwind shuttle, and The Phoenix)

Has permission but still evaluating:

Mattias Rehnman (The advanced Fed
fighter, The soverign X, the Dominion Torpedo Destroyer, The Romulan Warhammer and Federation Achilles

Almost totally skiped my mind to ask but from our own community:

How can you NOT have a ST mod with out the fine works of the following!!!

The Wolf 359 Project v2.01 was created by 'Captain' Nick Brown
[email protected] (weekends) (9th - 13th July)
[email protected] (weekdays)

The Borg Cube model and texture (plus two weapon textures) were created by Carl.
[email protected]

The Karnak02 model (used for the Borg Sphere) was created by 'Dark

  As for myself I only claim credit for the figher phaser and Torpedoes other than the borg one (which they were based off of) as these are the ONLY things I have ever created and though insignificant I am still proud of them. Oh and the uber photon spread 1=255, though you will not see it in the mod as it is totally sick.

   I am making a copy of this post as I just searched my drive and mailbox fro past letters. I am sure I am missing more permissions as my box was cleared last time I lost net access over 1 month.

   If ANYONE sees a ship that is suspect PLEASE let me know. I do not want any questions about the intregitry of this mod to come about.

[Redragon]

I only really looked at two pictures, the one with the kitbashed Breen Frigates and another one with a Dominion Carrier (should be credited to the Star Trek: Homeworld team) and the Dominion Battlecruiser. I've only seen two pictures and they're pretty hard to look at so again, I'm not 100% these are mine or am I able to provide a complete list.

[Fineus]

http://www.trek-homeworld.co.uk/users/redragon/dombattlecruiser.jpg

My goodness, that thing looks just like the Remus Battlecruiser of Star Trek Nemesis (ok, not exactly like it... but the overall design is very similar).

[Redragon]

I don't even remember what the Remus Battlecruiser looks like lol but if it does, it would be the other way around, that pic is the Dominion Battlecruiser shown in DS9.

[Star Dragon]

I apologise about the carrier shot. that DID com from HW trek that I converted myself to see if it would work/look good in game. Thank you for pointing it out! For now the mod is at a standstill cause of my turreting problem as all models as just eyecandy. As for the carrier unless I find a modler to assign modification of dominion ships, it just won't make the cut as I'm trying to reach a state of even graphics for each species. This is why I am seperating the mod into eras.

   Unfortuantely the Dominion is in the SD9 era (a modern one) so the graphics/textures should be as crisp as possible. If I find better textures for it and it fits in better I will then track down the owners and ask for permission to include it.  Keep in mind 90% of these screenshots are just WIPS for mod look/feel. Nothing is written in stone and will be determined if I can get talented people who 1.) have the time to commit to this mod as I lack many of the skills needed to finish it, and 2.) willing to conceed to MY vision of what FS Trek should be.

  As for the other ships I located them in my Ludi downloads folder

   BTW as for the Scimitar Ludi's is too big for now, so I am using the KA version ONLY for testing! One I get the tables and weapons right I need to get someone to break down Ludi's model and I will translate all the existing game data for the old one and BHAM! we have the best Scimitar it can be... Like I said earlier baby steps... I've been working towards this for almost a year now so my great patience has been an asset.

   Red Dragon would you be interested in working on FS2 trek? Not to scare you off but we have like 400-500 ships that need work...

[Redragon]

I really can't make any commitments right now but the STHW (Star Trek: Homeworld) team has created and has a collection of well over 100 ships and thats just SoA our flagship mod. If you name a trek ship (cept for Delta Quadrant) its more likely been done by us or will be sometime in the near future. If you need help or need access to ships then show up at our forum, tell us what you need, show us what you have and what the FS2 engine can handle and more than likely you'll have access. We went from Homeworld to Bridge Commander to SFC and some of our ships are in Klingon Academy too so the rest of the team will more than likely have an open mind about it. Lemme show you some of our other stuff...

[Omniscaper]

Red Dragon, I thought I recognized your name from the BC Universe forums. Have you checked your private messages? If you want to see what the engine's been capable of lately, take a look here:

Current BC ports:





http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,19747.0.html



BC ports running on Beta FSO builds with new environment maps:





http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,21159.0.html


I'm still patiently waiting to port over your Valdor model. Has it been released yet for porting? Another question Reddragon, is that Intrepid a port from EliteForce II?

[Star Dragon]

I thought I had dibbs on the Valdore over at KA? (kidding!) Actually I got an affirmative for it BUT I have to wait in line... Those textures are to DIE FOR!

  Great stuff, especailly the texture for the Intrepid. . For ds9 we got a twst version, but I want to use the SFC3 one for final.

One important thing, OMNI's mod is HT&L so he can have glows and shine and all that jazz (like uber 200x200 textures). My version is for Retail and going to be similiar to HW but without glows.

I'll take anothe rlook at the HW ST mod. as most of the basics are covered I'm specifically looking for non-cannon or unique vessels that can fulfill a role (ie like the dominion carrier). IF I decide it fits later or if I see something that is a MUST HAVE I will certainly let you and the team know about it!  (ever see a mod stalker before? "you have 107 messages..."  I just made that up.

Omni, as to your backgrounds...WHOA! keep up your amazing stuff dude. (dies of jealousy    )

[Omniscaper]

The backgrounds shown above are Lightspeed's, Star Dragon. I'm not trying to compete with you Star. As you can see, my conversions are just little side projects. I don't have the time to get into teams that work on whole campaigns and stuff. To be honest, the main reason why I started this endeavor was because of my impatience for new material that utilized FSO's new capabilities.

The Valdor is an excellent mesh/texture set. Hey Star, check out this thread:

http://dynamic3.gamespy.com/~bridgecommander/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=14193

[Nico]

Originally posted by Redragon
If you need help or need access to ships then show up at our forum, tell us what you need, show us what you have and what the FS2 engine can handle and more than likely you'll have access.

No offense, but I've seen many occurences when that should have happened ( with startreck, macross, and a couple other TC ), and everytime time, it ended the same way: seems the HW community N°1 rule is "we made it, it's ours, do your own and leave us alone".

[Redragon]

Hmmm, we'll I shouldn't have seem like I was talking about the whole community but I know that my mod STHW is more generous than others... you seen our ships in half a dozen games. Plus, the ships that I made, for a span of a  year or two, I was willing to let anybody take a look at it and play as they pleased. For beginners, the original PSD textures of the Dawnstar were made available for download. I can't speak for the entire HW modding community but I hafta defend STHW and say that its more generous than many.

By the way, those pics are really nice. I haven't seen a game with as many ships on screen at once since Homeworld, thats looking really good.

[Nico]

Well, I'm glad to hear that, really. I think it's sad when it's not that way.
The lack of cooperation between the robotech mod for FS2 and the macross mod for HW is one of the reasons both died, I think, for exemple...

[TrashMan]

Still no Galaxy-X?

[Omniscaper]

Ugh!!! If you REALLY want a Galaxy-x I can convert Pneumonic's model for Bridge Commander. Its no where remotely close to the caliber model and texture-wise to Scotchy's Galaxy. It really is an ugly duckling. BCfiles has been down for the last couple of days, so finding pictures of it will be tough.

[Star Dragon]

I have yet to have permission denied from a ST community, and in fact, have had noth8ing but good feelings with them. The only exception was custom kitbashes that were for a specific project that had screens listed but no file downloads, and this was ot a denial per say. Just that it was a private thing by that modler and not for any community.

  A fine example of this openess was the New viper conversion I did from the BC file. (Model Author: Atra-Hasis
Illumination: Wicked Zombie)

  Or some of the new stuff you haven't seen from Feral Yards thanks to thas111 (a SFC3 yard)

  Some bummer news though, not sure if I'm losing my cable (have to see if work picks up in next 2 weeks) plus the 6 months special is over and gonna be $20.00 extra! YIKES!!) Might just cave in and go back to something like Net Zero). Been using this time to get backk all the NWN stuff I lost last time my C drive crashed. I deleted all of bab5 season1 for room and re-dl'ed a bunch of new NWN mods,haks, and creatures to play with. I may try to sstart learnin to mod it so someday I cam recreate my campaign world on pc. I have been away from my friends for 2 years now and this really blows    I've played normal D&D for over 20 years, but only the last 7 years as a DM. NWN is a great program, but will NEVER replace getting around the table with a bunch of your buds and having a little escape from the day to day BS for a few hours once a week. Despite it's limitations it is the closest you can get to the D&D experience on a PC. Plus some of the PnP conversions I played from the 80's were some damn good conversions. Someone ever recreated Diablo and I MUCH prefer this NWN version    Anyway if I can get a team together maybe I can make some of the adventures we've had in my campaign world available for people to experience. Because I think rather unconventionally I even had an idea for a massive group of world projects that can be broken down into sections that all link up so enventually you can have any fantasy world mapped out and have adventures written for them. So that's mostly what I've been doing on my offline time besides work... L8tr.

[TrashMan]

Originally posted by Omniscaper
Ugh!!! If you REALLY want a Galaxy-x I can convert Pneumonic's model for Bridge Commander. Its no where remotely close to the caliber model and texture-wise to Scotchy's Galaxy. It really is an ugly duckling. BCfiles has been down for the last couple of days, so finding pictures of it will be tough.

I suggest you use C2's Galaxy-X. To my knowledge, it's the best one out there....