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Offline mikhael

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Bah. Its simply that everyone wants to be like Jedi. That and if you're facing off against someone with a lightsaber and he's deflecting your blaster shots back at you, you need to go after him with a melee weapon of your own, like a sword. With so many Jedi and Sith running around, it only makes sense to get back to melee weapons. Quit looking for logic from star wars. There is none. Just enjoy it.

Now someone tell me why the Mantle of the Force and the Guardian of the Force have to give me such ugly saber colors? I liked having twin yellow blades of death!
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That and if you're facing off against someone with a lightsaber and he's deflecting your blaster shots back at you, you need to go after him with a melee weapon of your own, like a sword.


Or switch to a good old fashioned shotgun. :p
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Now someone tell me why the Mantle of the Force and the Guardian of the Force have to give me such ugly saber colors? I liked having twin yellow blades of death!

Tell me about it. I liked my violet dual sabers... It would have been cool if you somehow could have chosen what color you want to use with those two crystals. These are bonus crystals after all.

By the way, you just need insanely high To Hit Roll for your blasters to pass enemies sabers. I've heard there are a few people who have designed a blaster wielding jedi. And succesful in doing so which amazes me. You can read some of their stuff over at Bioware forums, I think there was even a sort of tutorial how to make a blaster wielding jedi.
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Given that there's a scene in KOTOR where someone with a lightsaber deflects every single shard from a heavy repeater at near point blank range, I'd have to say that a shotgun would be trivial.

Like I said, though. Stop looking for sense in Star Wars. There isn't any. Just enjoy it.
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Are you absolutely certain the other guy was wielding a repeater and the other guy a lightsaber? Err... nope... can't remember such a scene... :p

Besides in KotOR repeaters fires in succession, not in bursts.

 

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i could swear it was KOTOR.

Maybe i'm just imagining things. It was a cutscene in something, involved a repeater and someone with a lightsaber. As soon as I remember where I saw it, I'll let you know.

Either way, my point remains.
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I just found out about a HUGE plot twist in KOTOR that made my jaw hit the ground so hard, it left a dent in my floorboards. Really!

And the spooky thing was, there were subtle hints about it all throughout the game!

Yeah, the plot twist is THAT good.


I don't know. It was a good twist, but I figured it out after I finished Tatooine and went to Kashyyyk. Bastila kinda gave it away. I did like the way they revealed the twist though. :D
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Notice how much it 'borrows' from the films, though?

Bizarre thing is, that works - makes it feel more star-warsy.  Especially the plot twist bit you mentioned (just finished collecting all the pieces of the star map, incidentally).

 

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Yeah, it definately "works". By no means is the writing on this bad. They have, so far, got every damn thing Right.
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Surprised how much freedom they got, though.... is any of this the game considered canon by any means?

 

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Reason they got as much freedom as they did,...the timeline. Darkhorse Comics pretty much have the run with the whole "Tales of the Jedi" era which is KotoR's timeframe. (give or take 1000) Which Lucas as always allowed a bit more freedom with than he does with movie eras and eras there after.

As far as cannon, I'd say it's as much cannon as anything else, until Lucas decides to change something. ;)
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Originally posted by Mr. Fury

By the way, you just need insanely high To Hit Roll for your blasters to pass enemies sabers. I've heard there are a few people who have designed a blaster using jedi. And succesful in doing so which amazes me. You can read some of their stuff over at Bioware forums, I think there was even a sort of tutorial how to make a blaster using jedi.


Do you mean "make a blaster wielding jedi" or do you mean "Make a blaster for jedi to use"?

There doesn't seem any way to make blaster for jedi use, but a blaster wielding Jedi would be easy to make. I don't know why anyone would want to, though. I can't see it being terribly useful: enemy jedi will close on you fast with their sabers. I can't remember more than two or three that had blasters of any sort.
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Pffrt, I should think more carefully how I write. :p
I meant blaster wielding jedi. One of those guys who made such a character says that he could kill almost all enemies before they were even in melee range. Hmh... could be possible, somehow.

By the way mikhael. Armor is quite useful for Jedi Guardians, since they don't get that much force powers. At the moment I am playing lvl8 scout/guardian and armor is pretty damn usefull due to lack of force powers. Thank God Force Wave and adv. saber throw is not restricted by armor.

 

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Given that there's a scene in KOTOR where someone with a lightsaber deflects every single shard from a heavy repeater at near point blank range, I'd have to say that a shotgun would be trivial.

Like I said, though. Stop looking for sense in Star Wars. There isn't any. Just enjoy it.


It wasn't a real shotgun now, was it? :p
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By the way mikhael. Armor is quite useful for Jedi Guardians, since they don't get that much force powers. At the moment I am playing lvl8 scout/guardian and armor is pretty damn usefull due to lack of force powers. Thank God Force Wave and adv. saber throw is not restricted by armor.


Which one is the Guardian? is that the Jedi Scoundrel, or am I thinking of the Consular?

I went with Scout and followed it with the Jedi version of the Scout. I liked the balance between Force powers and HP. I always play for balance, though. Even balanced, though, my main character is a combat monster, wearing the Qel Droma Robes, the Surek Headband (or whatever its called. +5 Wis), Master Two Weapon Fighting, Master Melee Specialization and two sabers with the Mantle and Guardian of the Force. Stasis Field and Force Storm are my main force powers (though I do use Speed3 before going through a door I know will have enemies behind it). The thing is, I'm Level 19 on Korriban (my fourth planet). I'm rediculously more powerful than pretty much anything I run into.

Spoiler:

This does not work so well against two Terantateks though! When I ran into the two of them together and it was just me alone, life became really difficult. I ended up fighting them like nine times before I figured out a good strategy. I tossed an adhesive grenade to freeze one in place, then I fought the other one with Calo Nord's armor on, a mandalorian melee shield active, a hyper battle stimulant, and force speed 3. Even then I couldn't kill it fast enough, so  the other one came after me. I chose to run and boost my hp back up. Somehow, I managed to keep one Terantatek between me and the other one, so i was out of his line of site long enough for him to forget I was around. While he hung around stupidly by the other end of the room, I killed his friend. Then I threw another adhesive at the passive survivor and went after him with a lot of flurries. For some reason, though, this time, I was getting a lot of stuns from my saber, so he wasn't so bad. Also, I found that the Poison Sword was better than my lightsaber, and the poison damage  was kinda rockin.

On the way out, when I encountered the Sith Academy Master and his Apprentice, I told them both to go to hell and hit them with Stasis. I took the Master down before he recovered. I then hit the apprentice with another Stasis just as she recovered. She went down in mere moments. When I got back to the Academy, the other students were like wheat before the scythe. It was, wrong. I should have gotten Dark points for hunting down and slaying every Sith in the place.

Has anyone broken into the Sith Master's Office? I can't make security spikes or security tunnelers work, and neither of my security proficient jedi had a high enough skill level to break in without them.
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Jedi Consular is the one which focuses more on Force and less on feats and skills. Jedi Sentinel is the one which goes middleway. Jedi Guardian is the one which focuses on combat and feats and less on skills and Force.

But I agree, Scout and Sentinel seems to be the best combination. But for a Jedi Guardian a good armor is important because of lack of Force powers.

I don't like either Scoundrel or Soldier. Scoundrel does not get enough feats and Soldier does not get enough skills. So the Scout is right for me. But I think I try with Scout/Consular next time. I have already finished the game with Scout/Sentinel, Soldier/Guardian and Scout/Guardian. Twice with light side, dark side is still in progress but currently I am playing a light sider again.

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Why didn't you use cheap tactics if that was little tough? ;)
There was a room on the other side where the Terantateks were. Terantateks can't follow you into that room and you can whack them with anything you want, grenades, lightsaber, blasters, your choice.
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Next time I play the game, I'm going to avoid levelling past probably 2 before I leave Taris. Its annoying that I've only got 12 jedi levels to work with. Its not like I went out of my way to go and build levels. I just made sure that I didn't miss anything before I left the planet. That put my Scout at level 8. :(

Jolee and Juhani make up for that a lot though.
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I tried that once, wasn't that rewarding actually.
I think I still have the savegame somewhere where my lvl2 light sider soldier is on Dantooine... (soldier because it was the toughest lvl2 character obviously...)

Couldn't finish the duel ring quest with that lvl2 char...

 

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I can see that being a problem. I don't think next time I play that I'm going to bother with the duel ring. Bendak's Blaster is reasonably nifty, but not nifty enough. A heavy blaster pistol and Carth's Blaster will do well enough I think.
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Me: You stayed there for two decades?
Jolee: What can I say? I did it for the Wookiees.
Me: The Wookies?
Jolee: The Wookiees!
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