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Battlestar Galactica Miniseries Opener...
here's a post I made about the BSG series vs BSG miniseries, I'm putting it all into spoiler mode so someone doesn't get POed at me.

Spoiler:

The Battlestar Galactica miniseries is a rape of science fiction. Very few shows, Sci-Fi or not, survive one raping (in Galactica's case, Galactica 1980), fewer survive long enough to get raped a second time (Battlestar Galactica miniseries on Sci-Fi). I only hope that this monumental failure serves as a lesson to for those retards that want to reshape an established series, in any form, to thier own design, that it will end in failure.

Lets start at the beginning:
Battlestar Galactica HAD a promising future. It was 1979, and, for lack of a better description, was going to be the first "Babylon 5". BSG (what I will refer to as Battlestar Galactica from this point on) had the foundations for a great story-line. The twelve colonies of Cobal (the REAL human homeworld) were at war. They had 12 battlestars, or a combonation of a battleship and carrier, and each were the top of the line ship. However the Cylon empire (later on these dudes) had far more ships and quickly overwhelmed all but two of the Battlestars. The Galactica, and the few surviving ships that were rescued go looking for the 13th tribe of Cobal, or in other words, Earth. They find Cobal, and confirm that a 13th tribe exists, just in time for the Cylons to bomb the place to dust. The second Battlestar - Pegasus (I believe), is found, and ends up engaging 2 Cylon basestars, and is presumed destroyed.

The origin of the Cylons were that a reptilian race designed and built the first mechanical Cylons, who then destroyed them and assumed thier name.

Please note that this happens over the course of a whole season, so not all this happens in the opening episode.

Well, I'll list what I DO like about the mini-series: (so far)
The Cylon "warriors" look like something that is designed for battle.
The Cylon "fighters" are designed far better, instead of a machine being piloted by machines (much less three), it is just one machine.

What I don't like:
Moore's complete raping of the time line.
Starbuck is not a woman.
Boomer is a big black man, not a short asian chick.
The Battlestar Galactica IS A FLAGSHIP, not some 50 year old crap heap.
Cylons aren't sexy blonde women, and as such, thier spines would not glow red during sex.
The Cylons were not built by humans.
If you're going to make a ship of the line (AKA Battleships/Carriers/HUGE WARSHIPS) you make thier computers harder than hell to access from the outside SO YOUR ENTIRE FLEET OF 120 BATTLESTARS AREN'T DESTROYED WITHOUT CAUSING ONE CYLON CASUALTY.

Secondly, I have a quote from this weeks "TV Guide":
"...But Moore hopes a new generation of sci-fi lovers will be blown away by the shows numerous sex scenes and it's state-of-the-art special effects.
Sex and Anger just might work..."
This shows how degraded Sci-fi producers see thier core audiences, as nothing but sex hungry explosion mongers. Unfortuneately the writers, producers, and directors all missed the main idea of the original BSG wasn't sex and anger, it was hope, something that sex and anger can never replace, onscreen or otherwise.

I can continue this list on forever, but the main idea is, what was shown tonight WAS NOT BATTLESTAR GALACTICA. It would have been fine if Moore changed the name of the ship to something else, changed the names of the big bad guys, and changed the names of the primary characters, I wouldn't nearly feel like an institution of Sci-Fi was being helplessly raped a second time. However, it is, and it was.

The part of Baltar is completely screwed up:
He was a very powerful corrupt POLITICIAN, not a computer programmer.
He wasn't seduced by a woman/machine, he was seduced by POWER that the cylons offered him.

For a time in the original series he even worked with the cylons on thier basestars, and was eventually captured by the Battlestar Galactica and put onto the prison ship following after the Galactica.

Oh, and not to ruin it for those of you who want to watch it:
One of the main characters is a Cylon, who either does a really good job of hiding it, or is a moron. This is not an original concept as seen by:
Star Trek: DS9 - The security cheif who went maverick
Star Trek: DS9 - The shapeshifter who looked like Bashir
Babylon 5: Garabaldi after he was kidnapped by the psicorps
Space: Above and Beyond: The "senator" in the last episode having information that the Chigs existed and invaded thier space
Matrix: Cypher

Secondly, Adama, as well as the rest of the crew and ships KNEW Earth existed, he didn't have to lie about it to "give people something worth living for". That was just lame.

It's just sad to see such a promising premise fall into such cliched Sci-Fi.


In short, the miniseries killed my inner child.

 

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hmm.... one can take "artistic license" only so far until it's almost completely different (read: ****ed up) ..

this is the case it seems..
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On the other hand, Boomer is hot.

 

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Now with marshmallow bombs and vaginas!



Hm... that might need some work.

 
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It needs something that is in the box. Like a toy...

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Now with marshmallow bombs and vaginas!



Hm... that might need some work.


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Um excuse me...
 
   I the ultimate fanboy (not fanboi, but I won't get on you for that if you people learn to accept TURRENTS!) :)

   I DID like it, in fact I gave it a 7-8 outta 10 so once again the writter is WRONG! And you DIDN'T read my post carefully as I stated I like it so I am to blame for nothing! (not that anyone ever pays attention to my rants , cause although I try to keep quiet when I start to talk I don't shut up cause I have something to say or if someone provokes me)... So how am I to blame for liking it? I just don't like HOW he did it...

   As for rape? That's pretty harsh, I rather think he had this cool idea for a "re-imagination" but it only works if you pretend teh original never happened... That's why I consider teh mini-series an "Alternate Universe"...

   After all think of it. What would the old cylons do to teh "NEW" cylons? Kill them of course, as they as almost indistinguisable from normal HUMANS! KILL THE HUMANS ALL ORGANIC LIFE MUST PERISH! (Jesus! Ever wonder if Bender from Futurama COULD be a cylon spy? Am I crazy or is he just really bad at hiding it?)  ;7

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I loved it. What I didn't like was the fact it was too much like a television series and not a movie.... the ending blew.

But the combat...

Ohh the combat....

Sooooooo good! Not enough, MHO!

Edit: It was way better than the original. Much better characters, ships, everything. New Cylons were awesome! Nuke effects could've been better 'though...
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Has anyone heard anything about SciFi maybe turning this into a regular series? That would seriously rock ass...

I heard that SciFi would turn BG into a regular weekly series if they got a good response from the audience; has anyone heard any word of this?
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Since it's been about a week since it came out?

No, no I haven't.

However, they would probably have to dump everything except SG-1 to maintain production values.
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Originally posted by Su-tehp
Has anyone heard anything about SciFi maybe turning this into a regular series? That would seriously rock ass...


Haven't heard, no.

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I heard that SciFi would turn BG into a regular weekly series if they got a good response from the audience; has anyone heard any word of this?


.... Uhh... can't say I heard about that either.... :wtf:
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It's difficult to say, if anything, I felt people weren't affected enough by the cold-blooded annihalation of their entire species.

The Cylons not being able to effect the Mk2 Vipers was explained near the beginning, as was the 'old' technology (valves etc) on the Galactica, and it was to prevent the Cylons doing exactly what they DID do to the new stuff.

Thoroughly enjoyed the movie in that respect, but I do hope that the series tries to follow along the lines of the old series when it comes to that 'feelgood' factor.

Also, by the end of the movie, I found myself really really wanting just to see one gratuitous scene of Cylons having their butts kicked by the Galactica, I know it wouldn't have worked in the first episode there, but I really hope it happens at least once in the series :D