[mikhael]

Taiwan should wait until TAIWAN is in a better military position. Last time I checked, the US military machine is not answerable to Taiwan (until Halliburton finds oil there. )

[Bobboau]

well that would be ideal

[Grey Wolf]

Another point is, do you know what this war would do to the semiconductor industry? It wouldn't be pretty, I can tell you that....

[Gloriano]

i really hope that politics win this thing and Taiwan get's independence w/o war because that war would be terrible and USA forces could lose that war if North-Korea start help China
(and i think they help China) but i don't know

USA vs China=Clash of Titans


yeah,i know that some peoples think thatv USA can beat anyone if they want but i don't believe that

[Bobboau]

China is the only other singular nathion that poses as military threat to us, most Americans recognise this. if we get into a fight with them we'd better have all our atention focused on them.

I'm not sure what your talking about with north korea, China alredy has nukes, and anyhting NK might give them, the only thing they could do would be invade south korea, wich might have been what you were talking about

[Gloriano]

North-korea could give some support to China in war against USA and maybe invade south-Korea

and USA must use lot's troop's in that war if they don't want bomp chinese cityes and killing lot's civilians

and of course that war would but whole Asia unstaple China mighty attack against Japan and we (Japan force)would counter-attack

so that's why i don't want war in this area in my life time

and now that japan is sending troops to Iraq

[Bobboau]

yes, a war with China would be a mess,
more so now than other times

[aldo_14]

Any time superpowers collide.......

Not to mention the fact that China is also on the border with 3 nuclear powers potentially allied with the US - Russia, Pakistan and India.

http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/middle_east_and_asia/china_pol01.jpg

I think that economic, rather than military pressure would be more effective on China.  China is - I think - very reliant on foreign investment to stay 'afloat'..... if you removed foreign investment from the US and Europe, the ecomony of China would probably self-destruct - with the goverment following suit.

[Nico]

mmh? Until 20 years ago, they lved very well on their own. I doubt commercial pression would be really efficient against China. of course I'm talking a bit out of my ass there, I have no facts, but that's what I think.

[Gloriano]

Not to mention the fact that China is also on the border with 3 nuclear powers potentially allied with the US - Russia, Pakistan and India.

and middle of war there would be another bomp strike in Kasmir (sp?) and it would lead war between India vs Pakistan and i don't think that Russian would join to Bush Crusade

[aldo_14]

Originally posted by Holy Imperial Gloriano


and middle of war there would be another bomp strike in Kasmir (sp?) and it would lead war between India vs Pakistan and i don't think that Russian would join to Bush Crusade

It's in Russias best interests to hurt China - Siberia is potentially a massive source of mineral wealth to the Russians, and an increasing Chinese threat on the southern border would - I feel - be a major concern.  India, Pakistan I'm not sure about - although China does have an influence on the line of control in Kashmir.  It's that very threat of a multilateral alliance that could help 'tame' China if it took a very aggressive stance - whether it would lead to a true military alliance is somewhat more doubtful.

Re Venom - so far as I now, China is very dependent on foreign business.  It's aim is to become a key economic power, and it can't do that without investment.  IIRC there is widespread poverty for the majority of the population - rememvber how SARS was said to have possibly been due to people eating feral cats?  For a Communist country, outward survival is often coupled with massive poverty (and in particular starvation) for the people within - just look at what happened to the USSR.