[Odyssey]

[color=cc9900]Hair...? [/color]

[Drew]

Originally posted by mikhael


Your point? I didn't say anything about the US being a democracy, did I? Read again, Drew, and read carefully. Ahem indeed. Schmuck.

just clarifying something i was getting a "USA is a democracy vibe" from IceFire  

BTW am i the only conservative liberterian on these boards?

[vyper]

[q]BTW am i the only conservative liberterian on these boards?[/q]

Define that for those used to British terminology.

[Grey Wolf]

That person, although thinking himself a patriot and a good citizen, is in fact a traitor to the spirit of democracy. Quenching dissent is only present in totalitarian dictatorships.

EDIT: The Libertarians are an incredibly conservative party. They're about as right-wing as you can get.

[vyper]

Oh. Nope, you're the only one then Drew.

[Drew]

Originally posted by Grey Wolf 2009
That person, although thinking himself a patriot and a good citizen, is in fact a traitor to the spirit of democracy. Quenching dissent is only present in totalitarian dictatorships.

EDIT: The Libertarians are an incredibly conservative party. They're about as right-wing as you can get.

Even though i despise the ppl who protested; the "Republicans"  who accused the protestors of being "traitors" were out insane. They havnt the faintest understanding of the US Constitution.


Huh? Incredibly conservative? Theyre the ones who want to legalize drugs, kill the income tax, free up imagration laws, remove all tarifs (heh, sry), kill most of government spending,  run an isolationist forgin affairs and (especially) follow a Strict constructavists interpertation of the constitution (mik should understand).  The libertarean party is increddibly distance from both Democrats and republicans.

[vyper]

You're still the only one.

[Drew]

i know

*runz to his secret lair to plan the complete brainwashing and indoctrination of Liberterian policy into the HLP members*

[mikhael]

Sorry, Drew. I got a bit carried away.

Libertarians aren't on the conservative-liberal scale. They're one end of the libertarian-socialist scale, which is 90deg from the conservative-liberal scale. You can be a conservative socialist, a conservative libertarian, a liberal socialist or a liberal libertarian.

My wife is a liberal socialist, whereas I sit rather close to the center, conservative on some things, liberal on others, libetarian on some things and socialist on others.

[Grey Wolf]

Ah. I was thinking of a diagram I saw once. Now that I think about it, it probably was showing two separate scales.

[Kosh]

These comments are simply unbelievable. The whole foundation of a western liberal democracy is to remove this sort of stupidity. I've seen them on television before...one person whos comments were on CNN about protesters against the war said they should be arrested for treason.

And that's about what I've come to expect from the far right Republicans in this country. Donald Rumsfeld ring anyones bells?

[neo_hermes]

....bump...nah...it'll be bumped sooner or later by someone who cares...

[Nico]

That's so complicated in your countries
In french we have right wing, left wing, up to extreme right wing ( xenophobist lot ), and extreme left wing ( silver spoon in the ass lot ), then you have centrism ( useless lot ). What's more complicated is that each wing is composed of at least a dozen parties, ranging from moderate (  even using policies from the opposite wing when it seems more appropriate, I'm moderate right wing for most ) to extreme ( -ist ) - which are in each case ( right or left ), the worst thing that could happen to our country ( national bankrupt with the leftists, civil unrest with the rightists, that's how I see it, to make a caricature of the thing ).

[KARMA]

Well nico, honestly it isn't that easy in european countries too...
Your subdivision from the extreme left to the extreme right my be right, but even if there could be a scale from left to right, it is hard to make a scale for the "philosophies" that are the source of those parties.
I think that it would be a great mistake to evaluate usa's politic with european eyese, as big as evaluating european politic with usa's eye
actually I think that our situation is probably more complicated:)

[Singh]

ummmm......
I though the US was capitalistic, not democratic?
in a capitalistic country, Money and power do the talking
In a democratic country, Money, Power and the People do the talking.....

[mikhael]

Capitalism is an economic philosophy. Democracy is a political philosophy.

We're a capitalist republic (representative democracy).

[vyper]

I sense stereotypes bubbling.

[q]Donald Rumsfeld ring anyones bells?[/q]

Preferably not.

[q]Well nico, honestly it isn't that easy in european countries too...[/q]

Try British politics, they're all really on the same team.

[01010]

The best thing about politics is that it's all made up as they go along. It's like live T.V.

[Sandwich]

I like pie.

[Knight Templar]

GOP Pie no doubt.