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Offline NeoHunter

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Reply #200 on: December 31, 2003, 08:41:13 pm
Better still. Arm all the Men, Orcs and Dwarves with lightsabers and the Elves and Orc archers with blasters. Those merceneries could come in AT-STs during the Siege of Gondor. Hee:p

That would be way better than the battle of Geonosis. Hundreds of thoussands of lightsabers charging against each other with laser bolts flying everywhere. maybe even equip Minas Tilith with rocket lauchers too!:D
 

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Reply #201 on: December 31, 2003, 11:39:09 pm
Oooh, post-apocalyptic action film directed by Jerry Bruckheimer with Sylvester Stallone as Aragorn with an RPG! The Orcs are mutants and Sauron is some kind of sentient atomic bomb or something!


AND IT'S A MUSICAL!!!!
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Reply #202 on: January 01, 2004, 12:53:27 am
You guys need help.
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Reply #203 on: January 01, 2004, 02:20:34 am
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Oooh, post-apocalyptic action film directed by Jerry Bruckheimer with Sylvester Stallone as Aragorn with an RPG! The Orcs are mutants and Sauron is some kind of sentient atomic bomb or something!


AND IT'S A MUSICAL!!!!


Sounds like Beneath the Planet of the Apes, the Postman, and Logan's Run mixed together with a pinch of Westside Story ;)
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Reply #204 on: January 01, 2004, 02:41:29 am
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Reply #205 on: January 01, 2004, 03:24:09 am
pffft.....put the bad guys with those pfft star wars weapons and give the good guys l33t Phasers and you'll see action!

Actually, I wouldnt know since I havent seen the movie just yet ;)
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Reply #206 on: January 01, 2004, 03:24:38 am
DG: Cliff Scene?
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Reply #207 on: January 01, 2004, 04:50:38 am
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DG: Cliff Scene?


Aragorn going over the cliff when the Warg attacks him in TTT. I could actually swallow that bit, it's still the re-write of Faramir that bugs me, though having seen ROTK I can see how it all ties up.
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Reply #208 on: January 01, 2004, 08:41:15 am
Watch the EE of TTT. It pritty much explains the Faramir re-write and I agree with them. It kinda strips the power of the ring when suddenly you got a guy who is not effected by its power. The viewing public would have gone "Ok. So why doesent he just toss the ring into Mt. Doom?" So they made him human.
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Reply #209 on: January 01, 2004, 09:43:39 am
The extended TT kind of justifies what Jackson did to Faramir... but he might as well have just stuck to the book.

God, me and me brother watched extended Fellowship, extended Towers and then went to the cinema to watch ROTK again... it hurt
 

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Reply #210 on: January 01, 2004, 10:09:29 am
on a completely unrelated note, I'm off to see the Estonian ROTK premiere.

And PJ did right by rewriting Faramir.
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Reply #211 on: January 01, 2004, 11:01:59 am
Explain
 

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Reply #212 on: January 01, 2004, 01:11:21 pm
How was the Cliff part supposed to be?
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Reply #213 on: January 01, 2004, 01:14:36 pm
It wasn't. There was no cliff, and no one fell off it. As a consequense, there was no crappy dream sequence, and Arda was a better place.
 

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Reply #214 on: January 01, 2004, 01:16:30 pm
So I suppose there was no long ride for him back to the battle then?
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Reply #215 on: January 01, 2004, 01:20:20 pm
Don't get me started
 

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Reply #216 on: January 01, 2004, 01:21:59 pm
Well I got the Extended Version, and my old folks were thinking of seeing ROTK today, so maybe I should watch the EE TT then..
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Reply #217 on: January 01, 2004, 03:16:49 pm
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God, me and me brother watched extended Fellowship, extended Towers and then went to the cinema to watch ROTK again... it hurt


Your new font color is annoying. :p

And I did that too. We got an LCD projector, good 4.1 speakers, and a nice blank wall. :D But my knees were killing me in the theater.
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Reply #218 on: January 01, 2004, 03:50:21 pm
Right. I'm back.

All I have to say is... wow.

Hollywood can keep throwing out crap 11 months of the year, if they top it off with a film like this.

I didn't even squeak, for the entire 3 1/2 hours.

Simply amazing.

In fact, I wouldn't have minded sitting another half hour, only to see The Voice of Saruman and the Houses of Healing.

Which brings me to my only gripe with the movie. Sean Bean, who had a 3-second cameo in ROTK got into the credits. Karl Urban, who didn't even have lines got into the credits. Cristopher Lee didn't get into the credits. Even if it'll be fixed in the EE, I'm still pissed. The man has dreamt of playing of role in a LOTR movie, and he doesn't even get into the final credits. I'd be mad too, if I were him.

As for notable moments, well, Bernard Hill steals every scene he's in. As does Sean Astin. If one of them don't get an Oscar, then there's no justice in the world.

Then again, Cabaret got the best picture of 2002, so for some reason, I wouldn't be surprised.

One more thing. Trinity's death sequence in Matrix: Revolutions lasted for about 3 minutes.  In the end of those three minutes, people were coughing, speaking, yelling even. I really wanted to cry out and yell "Die already, *****." The ending of ROTK took 10 times longer. No one moved a muscle. It was that good.

"DEATH!!!!"

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Reply #219 on: January 01, 2004, 04:44:21 pm
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DG: Dark_4ce explained it sufficently

Eh? Where does he explain why Faramir had to be entirely rewritten by Jackson?
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