Author Topic: Merkins, no offence but...  (Read 3060 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline diamondgeezer

Merkins, no offence but...
... just what the hell is wrong with your country?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/3320237.stm

 

Offline vyper

  • 210
  • The Sexy Scotsman
Merkins, no offence but...
And I thot Bliar was bad.... :wtf:
"But you live, you learn.  Unless you die.  Then you're ****ed." - aldo14

 

Offline Odyssey

  • Stormrider
  • 28
Merkins, no offence but...
[color=cc9900]Interesting... While I vehemently hate political correctness, I support this on the notion that it's one of the few anti-commercial (i.e. anti-Christmas) moves I've seen happen in America. That's a Big Thing.[/color]

 

Offline vyper

  • 210
  • The Sexy Scotsman
Merkins, no offence but...
[q]anti-commercial (i.e. anti-Christmas)[/q]

:(
"But you live, you learn.  Unless you die.  Then you're ****ed." - aldo14

 

Offline Taristin

  • Snipes
  • 213
  • BlueScalie
    • Skelkwank Shipyards
Re: Merkins, no offence but...
Quote
Originally posted by diamondgeezer
... just what the hell is wrong with your country?


I can answer that. Americans are stupid. We complain that everything offends us, then we complain that we have religion being forced upon us, and try to eliminate it. The more people complain that it's an abomination against god and it snowballs from there...

So yeah, I guess in a society where everyone has a voice (supposedly. You need to have a fair amount of cash to get a point to the Supreme court) you're bound to get the biggest assholes saying the most.
Freelance Modeler | Amateur Artist

 

Offline Goober5000

  • HLP Loremaster
  • 214
    • Goober5000 Productions
Merkins, no offence but...
It's all the lawyers.  You can sue anybody for anything these days. :sigh: I can't remember the last time a public figure said something along the lines of "Suck it up and deal with it."

 

Offline mikhael

  • Back to skool
  • 211
  • Fnord!
    • http://www.google.com/search?q=404error.com
Merkins, no offence but...
I don't get it. What part are you objecting to? The idiot woman who thought that a tannenbaum was a religious symbol (well, if you're a germanic druid perhaps)?

I mean, yeah, americans are stupid--especially considering that we let the Shrub into office--but lets narrow it down.
[I am not really here. This post is entirely a figment of your imagination.]

 

Offline Solatar

  • 211
Merkins, no offence but...
Now watch me go and get suspended for asking why this is at school...


EDIT: I honestly don't know what to say. This is so completely stupid it isn't funny...
« Last Edit: December 23, 2003, 08:31:11 pm by 691 »

 

Offline Kosh

  • A year behind what's funny
  • 210
Merkins, no offence but...
Quote
I don't get it. What part are you objecting to? The idiot woman who thought that a tannenbaum was a religious symbol (well, if you're a germanic druid perhaps)?


Considering that the communist government in China has allowed santa and christmas trees, I somehow think that neither of them have any religious meaning.

Quote
I mean, yeah, americans are stupid--especially considering that we let the Shrub into office--but lets narrow it down.


You got that right.
"The reason for this is that the original Fortran got so convoluted and extensive (10's of millions of lines of code) that no-one can actually figure out how it works, there's a massive project going on to decode the original Fortran and write a more modern system, but until then, the UK communication network is actually relying heavily on 35 year old Fortran that nobody understands." - Flipside

Brain I/O error
Replace and press any key

 

Offline Drew

  • 29
    • http://www.galactic-quest.com
Merkins, no offence but...
Quote
Originally posted by Kosh


Considering that the communist government in China has allowed santa and christmas trees, I somehow think that neither of them have any religious meaning.



they dont have much religios meaning anymore.(santa never had a religios meaning btw) Christmas has been commercialized; the tree and santa are more of domsetic tradtions the relegios symbols
[(WWF - steroids + ties - spandex) / Atomic Piledrivers] - viewing audience = C-SPAN

My god.. He emptied the gasoline tank from the van onto your cat, lit him on fire, threw him in the house and dove for cover.  :wtf: Family indeed.  ~ KT

Happiness is belt fed.

 

Offline Ace

  • Truth of Babel
  • 212
    • http://www.lordofrigel.com
Santa and a Christmas tree at a public office or building? No problem.

Nativity scenes? Then I do object, since freedom of religion does include freedom from religion ;)

What I find funny, is how a growing number of right-wing religious conservatives consider Christmas a "pagan tradition" and "un-Christian."
Ace
Self-plagiarism is style.
-Alfred Hitchcock

 

Offline Knight Templar

  • Stealth
  • 212
  • I'm a magic man, I've got magic hands.
Right.. cause we all know how well Christianity would work without Christmas..
Copyright ©1976, 2003, KT Enterprises. All rights reserved

"I don't want to get laid right now. I want to get drunk."- Mars

Too Long, Didn't Read

 

Offline mikhael

  • Back to skool
  • 211
  • Fnord!
    • http://www.google.com/search?q=404error.com
Historically, here in the US we considered Christmas to be a british holiday, and it was not celebrated as anything but a strictly religious observance. Around the turn of the century, the commercialization of Christmas began in full swing, and things like the tannebaum and the Santa and all the silliness kicked into high gear. The fact of the matter is that "christmas" as we observe it today is fundamentally NOT Christian and indeed incorporates a large number of pagan traditions.

Now, you want to talk the Nativity and el Dia de los Reyes, hey, now we're talking Christian religion and tradition.
[I am not really here. This post is entirely a figment of your imagination.]

 

Offline Dark_4ce

  • GTVA comedy relief
  • 27
Jeesus Ch- *ahem* I mean, Holy ****! Thats just taking it a bit too far in my oppinion. Can't people be just happy and enjoy Christmas for what it is?
I have returned... Again...

 

Offline Fineus

  • ...But you *have* heard of me.
  • Administrator
  • 212
    • Hard Light Productions
Quote
Originally posted by mikhael
Historically, here in the US we considered Christmas to be a british holiday, and it was not celebrated as anything but a strictly religious observance. Around the turn of the century, the commercialization of Christmas began in full swing, and things like the tannebaum and the Santa and all the silliness kicked into high gear. The fact of the matter is that "christmas" as we observe it today is fundamentally NOT Christian and indeed incorporates a large number of pagan traditions.

Now, you want to talk the Nativity and el Dia de los Reyes, hey, now we're talking Christian religion and tradition.

++ to you sir, for having teh knowlege. I was hoping someone would point this out before I had to mention the event of Yule.

 

Offline karajorma

  • King Louie - Jungle VIP
  • Administrator
  • 214
    • Karajorma's Freespace FAQ
Quote
This year they are throwing their support behind a Catholic New York mother, who is suing the city's school authorities over their failure to include a Christian symbol in a seasonal display which included the Jewish menorah and an Islamic crescent.


Now that's just ridiculous! I'm an aetheist and I find all this stuff nonsense.

1. Christmas is actually a pagan holiday taken over by the early christians anyway. As Mikhael say most of the traditions involved are actually pagan ones.

2. The Christmas treee is not a christian symbol. Jesus was not visited by 3 wise trees bearing gifts :D

3. Santa is not a christian figure anymore. Saint Nick may be but as soon as you let Coca Cola reinvent him and threw away his cape he pretty much lost any religious connections. If he was a religious figure do you think they would have got away with that? Imagine someone trying to reinvent Baby Jesus in the Pepsi colours! :D

4. Instead of repressing all the kids religious beliefs how about letting them express them and learn tolerance for other peoples beliefs? This kind of stupidity only reinforces the belief that religion needs to be protected for the faithful.

5. Only deal with religious teaching when it steps over the line. I have no problem with christianity being taught in schools. Just give it equal time as every other major religion and don't teach it in a "This is the correct one, we'll teach you the other ones later" way. Even as an aetheist you can't be ignorant of what other people believe. If the teachers can't teach their own religion objectively then they don't teach at all.
Karajorma's Freespace FAQ. It's almost like asking me yourself.

[ Diaspora ] - [ Seeds Of Rebellion ] - [ Mind Games ]

 

Offline diamondgeezer

"Christ Cola - Baby Jebus drinks it - so should you!"

 

Offline Sandwich

  • Got Screen?
  • 213
    • Skype
    • Steam
    • Twitter
    • Brainzipper
Oy vey. :rolleyes:
SERIOUSLY...! | {The Sandvich Bar} - Rhino-FS2 Tutorial | CapShip Turret Upgrade | The Complete FS2 Ship List | System Background Package

"...The quintessential quality of our age is that of dreams coming true. Just think of it. For centuries we have dreamt of flying; recently we made that come true: we have always hankered for speed; now we have speeds greater than we can stand: we wanted to speak to far parts of the Earth; we can: we wanted to explore the sea bottom; we have: and so  on, and so on: and, too, we wanted the power to smash our enemies utterly; we have it. If we had truly wanted peace, we should have had that as well. But true peace has never been one of the genuine dreams - we have got little further than preaching against war in order to appease our consciences. The truly wishful dreams, the many-minded dreams are now irresistible - they become facts." - 'The Outward Urge' by John Wyndham

"The very essence of tolerance rests on the fact that we have to be intolerant of intolerance. Stretching right back to Kant, through the Frankfurt School and up to today, liberalism means that we can do anything we like as long as we don't hurt others. This means that if we are tolerant of others' intolerance - especially when that intolerance is a call for genocide - then all we are doing is allowing that intolerance to flourish, and allowing the violence that will spring from that intolerance to continue unabated." - Bren Carlill

 

Offline karajorma

  • King Louie - Jungle VIP
  • Administrator
  • 214
    • Karajorma's Freespace FAQ
Quote
Originally posted by diamondgeezer
"Christ Cola - Baby Jebus drinks it - so should you!"


If they thought they could get away with it they probably would try it. :)
Karajorma's Freespace FAQ. It's almost like asking me yourself.

[ Diaspora ] - [ Seeds Of Rebellion ] - [ Mind Games ]

 

Offline Dark_4ce

  • GTVA comedy relief
  • 27
Quote
Originally posted by Sandwich
Oy vey. :rolleyes:


I second that...
I have returned... Again...