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Offline diamondgeezer

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/3381531.stm

Now I know you lot will want to get in here and start telling us all that this is more of Dubyah's bull****, but don't forget the guy really really wants to get re-elected :)

 

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apparently he's going to say something in the State of the Union speech sometime later this month (don't know the exact date).  If it does happen it will be really exciting.  Now all we need to do is dust off those Saturn V rockets.
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He better be telling the truth! I'll be interested in space when he sends people up towards the moon/mars...without exploding/emploding.
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Ahh, but what if they just say they're going to Mars, and actually film it in the Nevada desert, like all those conspiracy theories about the Apollo program?

I can't see a Mars mission being feasible until we get much more sophisticated craft, as I remember seeing an episode of Hroizon ro Equinox or something in which they said it would take a couple of weeks to reach Mars.

 

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it would take a couple of weeks to reach Mars.


try months. weeks if we develop a nuclear fusion drive between now and then.
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Offline diamondgeezer

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It's a pretty safe bet to assume they won't be going on your common-or-garden chemical rocket - you'd have to scale the old Saturn 5 up hundreds of times. Expect plenty of new tech for this project :)

 

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It's a pretty safe bet to assume they won't be going on your common-or-garden chemical rocket - you'd have to scale the old Saturn 5 up hundreds of times. Expect plenty of new tech for this project :)


Actually, I think you'd have to build the ship in space ( isn't the international station somehow though out for that ind of eventuality? ), and use good old space shuttle as an earth/shipyard ( yeah :D ) elevator.
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Offline diamondgeezer

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Well, yeah, that was one of the ideas with the ISS, along with it actually being completed within our lifetime. The report mentions the possible use of Lunar training for Martian expeditions, so a Lunar launchpad is not out of the question I think...

 

Offline Petrarch of the VBB

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I'd love to see them get it wrong and launch from the moon when it's on the wrong side of Earth.

 

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Mind you, the ISS was planned with the expectation of reliable, precision built, on time Russian components, wasn't it?(!)

 

Offline diamondgeezer

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And non-exploded shuttles I reckon

 

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Wonder how much of a role the Chinese space launch played in this decision........................?

 

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:lol:

Anyhow, didn't NASA just develop an ION engine? There was a thread about it a few days ago I think...

 

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Lunar base? Man on the moon? Man on Mars?

I'd w00t, but I won't because it's George Dubya. Oh well, nobody's perfect.

They should build some of 'em space elevators.
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The ones where the cable, even if 1mm wide on Earth, would have to be 1km wide at the other end?

  

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Ahh, but what if they just say they're going to Mars, and actually film it in the Nevada desert, like all those conspiracy theories about the Apollo program?
 


More likely up north of WA - it's actually red for miles because of all the iron up there. 'Parantley they found that rover hting just outside of hamersly a few weeks back :p
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Dubya is desperate.  Now that his personal war on daddy's enemies is effectively over, Dubya need a new catch to draw in money.  The fact that he chose the space program is probably the one smart thing he's ever done, though.

The Ion engine is far from being able to propel men to Mars.  The engine works far too slowly for such a short distance when you can only accelerate half the way there.  Now, if we were going to Titan, Ion drives would be perfect.

The space elevator idea, while a fun thought, is totally infeseable.  Along with the massive size of the base cables, you'd also have to wait a week or so to get to the top without rocket engines installed on the bottom.  Why not just use shuttles?  You'd spend the same money on fuel, supplies, and 'Oh S**T!' provisions without the massive cost of building this thing and developing a metal that can withstand the punishment.

The moonbase idea is just like the space elevator idea.  A fun thought, but not possible at this time.  Sure, scientists say that there is water under the surface of Luna and Silica, Titanium, Oxygen, and other elements in the dusty soil.  But the cost of building such a structure along with the cost of supplying it until it got on its feet would be much too high for it to be accepted as an international project.  And what if the scientists are wrong?  What if there is no water?

Just my $.02...
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