[Corsair mk. 2]

http://www.lanceandeskimo.com/chefelf/rnt_78reasons.shtml

http://www.lanceandeskimo.com/chefelf/rnt_64reasons.shtml

[Shrike]

1)  They sucked ass.

[Ransom]

I like Shrike's economy version of the reasons better.

[phreak]

heh

Return of the Dorks

[Drew]

Originally posted by Shrike
1)  They sucked ass.

amen. tho ep1 didnt suck as nearly as much as ep2. the only thing good in either was the podrace\jedi dules.  

oh, and the scene when yoda beats the jack**** outaa dokoo(wtf?) was as funny as hell

[Grey Wolf]

I still think it makes sense that Jar Jar doomed the Galaxy. Now if only we could do 2 things Episode III would be a great movie:
1. Save Anakin's reputation (hint: Firing the actor would help this).
2. Fire George Lucas.
3. Have the new, superior Anakin strike down Jar Jar at some point in the movie.

[Turnsky]

Originally posted by Grey Wolf 2009
I still think it makes sense that Jar Jar doomed the Galaxy. Now if only we could do 2 things Episode III would be a great movie:
1. Save Anakin's reputation (hint: Firing the actor would help this).
2. Fire George Lucas.
3. Have the new, superior Anakin strike down Jar Jar at some point in the movie.

Jar jar in a chipper-shredder?

[Stunaep]

They need to put a lawnmower in. Lawnmowers are always good. OR chainsaws.

[Liberator]

Feed him to that insect/feline thing that tried to eat Amidala.

[Bobboau]

kill him with a toenail clipper

[neo_hermes]

No you've got to cut Jar Jar into little tiny peices. then cut those peices into smaller peices. then launch him or whats left of him into the sun. then blow up the sun if you have time.

[Bobboau]

toenail clipper will chop tiny littly slivers of flesh off very slowly, you could dip it in some sort of acid or salt to enhance the effect

[Gloriano]

Originally posted by Shrike
1)  They sucked ass.

[Warlock]

Just curious,...but how many of those that hate the new SW films saw (and remember seeing) the originals at their original release?

[Corsair]

I didn't. Wasn't born then... woulda liked to though, I'm sure it was friggin amazing seeing that for the first time on the big screen without having heard all the hype from parents/friends who had seen it wayyyyyyyyy before.

I knew I was born in the wrong decade.

[mikhael]

I did, Warlock. And for the record, I don't hate the Ep1 and Ep2. I'm just disappointed in Lucas for somehow forgetting the things he did that made Eps4-6 so good. Instead of the originality of the first ones, eps 1 and 2 have continually ripped off the older trilogy, in some scenes, point for point. Despite that, though, I still liked them and look forward to Ep3.

[Liberator]

The new one's aren't bad persay, they just aren't as good as the first three.  

Most of it comes down to casting.

A New Hope, The Empire Strikes Back, and The Return of the Jedi are good because of the acting abilities of Mark Hamil, Harrison Ford, and Carrie Fisher.  The new ones suck be cause aside from an occasional good line from Ewan MacGregor and Natalie Portman, the characters all come off as stiff and uninspiring.  

Yoda is the exception due to the undeniable voice work of Mr. Frank Oz however.

Once again, I am begging Mr. L, get rid of Darth Whiner.  Make us understand how he became the ultimate Badass.

I refuse to believe that Vader was ever a whiney, bratty kid.  

Arrogant?  Yes
Angry?  Yes
Brooding?  Yes

But Anakin decended into the dark side because Obi Wan was a stern parent?  No way in hell.

[Warlock]

Well personally I don't see the "scene for scene" copies,...although I do see of basic themes being reused,..which is because the stories are meant to be quite similar.

As far as the Vader issue,... of course he's whiney,... he's a kid, he left his mother as a misunderstood angry little slave boy that wanted to boff a 14 yro princess, the closest to a father figure he has is "I just became a Jedi Knight and I'll wing my way through teaching most powerful force user in the galaxy" Obi Wan,...and then the poor fool finds his mother only to watch her die from torture.

I swear the only reason ppl hate Anakin is that they always picture him as Vader,...until Ep 1 noone every thought of Vader has having been a child,....much less ....a fairly normal one.

[mikhael]

Well, Warlock, the whole end of Ep2 was lifted directly from Ep4, for example. Boy and Girl, robot hand, two droids, looking off into the distance, etc. I guess, though you're right. For the most part its themes that are reused, but the problem is that they're OBVIOUSLY reused.

Personally, I don't have a problem with Anakin being whiny. I do have a problem with the way the actor portrayed him in Ep2. At no point could I believe I was watching the young adult version of the little boy in Ep1. I don't give a damn about Vader yet. There's plenty of time for him to get from whiny adolescent to hate-filled badass later.

[Knight Templar]

Not to mention the uh.. excuse of a love story.

They could have just made it more realistic and explained that Anakin used the force to get Padme in bed.