[Omniscaper]

Sisko - "We're gonna fight our way out of this!"






Nog - "Its the Klingons sir, they're here."



Ship count: 157, thats ONE HUNDRED FIFTY SEVEN.

Minimum framerate (with AA) 6fps with max of 60 fps.

[mikhael]

That's 157--at 6.1fps. Not spectacular. Good models though.

[Fineus]

We all know FS2 has never handled "Battle of Endor" style uber-fights well - the ships alone are impressive. I don't see many practical missions using over 100 ships.

[Omniscaper]

One can't expect spectacular frames rates with ten 15k polygons Galaxies. Seventeen 9k Akiras, etc... I'm just continuing a battle started in a previous thread. With 48 extra ships.

Just fun recreating war scene.

[Sandwich]

Originally posted by Omniscaper
Sisko - "We're gonna fight our way out of this!"

"Fight"? If that's a fight, where are the shots?

[mikhael]

They're not BeamFreeAll. If they were, that'd be .00061fps.

[magatsu1]

I thought Klingons were good guys now ?

And, that Fed. ship on the left, with it's engine pod directley above that TNG stylee ship, what class is that ? Looks pretty funky.

[KARMA]

well at least guys is interesting the fact that he got 154 high poly ships in game at same time

[Flipside]

Not too shabby considering the poly count for some of those models.
From a FS2 point of view, it's excellent news, since the absolute maximum number of capships I would consider in a mission is 15, and even then, I would think I was overdoing it by a fair bit, so it looks like HT&L really has freed us to do those ships we only dreamed of

[KARMA]

I'm not sure, but I think that the "true" battle of endor involved a far lower number of caps (but obviously there were dozens if not hundreds of fighters)

[Bobboau]

Originally posted by magatsu1
I thought Klingons were good guys now ?

And, that Fed. ship on the left, with it's engine pod directley above that TNG stylee ship, what class is that ? Looks pretty funky.

you never watched DS9 did you?

the klingons and (as hard as it is to beleve) the romulans, along with the federation all allied aganst the nazi like dominion wich concered/allied themselvs with the Cardasians and then later added the Breen to the allies both fought a world war 2 like battle royal, I beleve that line was from when the Klingons first  joined the federation against the Dominion

also that ship is the Defiant, the coolest ship in the trek universe, and the only fed ship with a cloaking device (borrowed from the Romulans, not related to the later alliance with them)

[mikhael]

Actually, as I recall, the Defiant is NOT the only Fed ship with a cloaking device. Its the only Fed ship with a LEGAL cloaking device.

[Omniscaper]

The DS9 episode is called "Sacrifice of Angels" It is the first time "Foundation Imaging", who were the original CGI pioneers of Babylon 5's effects, did a massive war scene in Star Trek. I believe the battle consisted of 1200 Dominion/Cardasian ships (bad guys) vs 600 Federations. Federation was getting clobbered when the Klingons unexpectedly came to their aid concluding the most dramatic war sequence Trek has ever produced.

I doubt I can get that many ships in game, but who knows. Maybe in a year or so....    

Mad kudos to SCP's skillz!

I actually tried it with beams freed and the frame rate bottomed at 6 fps with AA (recommended for screen  caps I was told). I had to turn it off to get the screen shots I wanted which are based on actual shots used in the episode.

The Jemhadar, Defiants, and Bird of Preys were set as fighter classes, so they wouldn't sit still without being ordered to "play dead". I would have to retable them as "cruisers" in order for them to stay still for the camera angles I needed and fire at the same time.

[Bobboau]

yeah, there was the pegasus with it's ubber cloak that endded it up halfway in an asteroid, run by the guy who didn't like that treaty, and I beleve the intrepid (or something, it was in voyager so my memory on it is fuzzy)

[mikhael]

There's been lots more than that, if you read the books too. There's an ep of TNG where they talk about the Pegasus being the first with a Phase Cloaking device. There's also a couple of eps where they mention that the Feds have cloaking devices at SFHQ for study, that occasonially get put into ships by Bureau whatever the damned number is.

[silverwolf]

actually yes there was the pegusus but they found it in an astroid not in voyager but in TNG. the i think it was admiral was trying to recover the cloak

[mikhael]

Bob was saying the Intrepid was in Voyager, NOT in TNG. The Pegasus was in TNG.

[neo_hermes]

you mean the USS Morgan (yeah i believe that's the name) it was in an episode of DS9. i think it's the sister ship of the USS Voyager.

[Trivial Psychic]

Speaking of cloaks, I think it'd be a cool promo shot if someone could get these models working in OGL and get shots of the Klingon ships and the Defiant cloaking.  As far as other fleet engagements are concerend, how about that engagement/slaughter near the Founders former homeworld, when the Obsidian Order and the Tal'Shiar tried to wipe them out.  The engagment in total included Cardassian Keldon class cruisers, Romulan Warbirds (exact class, unknown), Jem'Hadar attack ships, the Defiant of course, and a runabout.  Now, the runabout is not absolutely neccessary, and we could sub the Galor for the Keldon, then all we realy need is the Romulan warbird.  Might be cool.

Later!

[Stryke 9]

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