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Offline an0n

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Originally posted by Akalabeth Angel
Problem with that idea (upgraded Loki in Sol) is that the Loki didn't see action until Silent Threat which was post-Lucifer destruction. Unless Sol has the plans for the Loki, they would have never used it. One would assume that they would have the plans though, but that assumes that all fighters are designed and built in Sol. If a fighter was built by an non-Sol contractor, and the fighter only saw limited use with the GTI before Sol, it may have never really been used in the system.


You kind of answered your own question. The Loki was built in secret for the GTI. It seems likely to me that (like the Hades) it was designed in-house. Remember that even the branch of the GTI you were with didn't recognise the Loki when you first encounter it. That suggests a super secret project. Going to an outside contractor to build it would just be a huge security risk.

 Now if you say that the designing was done in Sol (which was no doubt the seat of power for the GTI) you've got a situation where both Sol and the GTI would have had access to the Loki.
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Offline Zarax

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Well, i once made a mission where your loki was made hidden from sensors (getting only the intermittent blips) with awacs support and you had to scan a ship subsystems before the awacs was taken out... pretty funny
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Originally posted by karajorma
Going to an outside contractor to build it would just be a huge security risk.


Must not have been that huge, everything says it was built by Han-Roland, the company that built all but three of FS1's fighters, the Athena, Zues and Ulysses).
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Offline DeepSpace9er

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Must not have been that huge, everything says it was built by Han-Roland, the company that built all but three of FS1's fighters, the Athena, Zues and Ulysses).


Ah but was that during silent threat or were the designs turned over to them as part of the reduction of GTI powers and assets that no doubt happened immediately following the Hades Rebellion? ;)
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Originally posted by karajorma


Ah but was that during silent threat or were the designs turned over to them as part of the reduction of GTI powers and assets that no doubt happened immediately following the Hades Rebellion? ;)


During, assuming the information in the tables for Silent Threat are accurate.
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The Athena kicks ass.

I used to use her whenever the opportunity arose, even in intercept missions. By far the best ship!


I have to agree, it's in the top five.  Would definitely be the best bomber if it could mount bombs:rolleyes: , it behaves more like a heavy fighter.  It's only major flaw is it's gun placement, it requires high acuracy during dogfights.
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Not to mention the giant profile when viewed top/down.  But it's almost impossible to see from every other angle.

 

Offline neo_hermes

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why doesn't someone fix the Athena.
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Fix how?  Like an Athena Mk 2?  All smooth edges and larger payload?
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Who was making fun of the Bakha.  Its probably one of the best pure bombers around...the Sekhmet is a heavy assault bomber more like the Ursa (firepower, flexibility, brute force) while the Bakha is more strike oriented...but I'd say that the Bakha is great...you have a small, compact, tough, and relatively well armed to take on specific targets and dogfight your way out of the battle.

Boanerges is my favorite bomber tho :)
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i hate the bakha it had a rather...small payload  ....
the Sekhmet is awesome tho. It 0wnz in multi.
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Boanerges? That unmanoeuvrable piece of crap doesn't even have a turret. I agree with the other guys, the Sekhmet is the coolest bomber in GTVA. (not that the Sekhmet has a turret mind you, but turreted bombers seem to have gone out of flavour for some odd reason)

 

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The Ursa owns them all. Nothing can match its payload (except the Seraphim, which doesn't count).
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Who was making fun of the Bakha. Its probably one of the best pure bombers around...the Sekhmet is a heavy assault bomber more like the Ursa (firepower, flexibility, brute force) while the Bakha is more strike oriented...but I'd say that the Bakha is great...you have a small, compact, tough, and relatively well armed to take on specific targets and dogfight your way out of the battle.

Boanerges is my favorite bomber tho :)


The nice thing about the Bakha is that it is just as good a heavy fighter as a bomber. This can be crucial in some singleplayer missions in which you cannot rely on the stupid AI wingmen to protect you from enemy fighters. :D The Helios compatibility is a bonus for something of its size and speed. The only problems with it are that misleading line in the tech room about the small profile for heat seekers and the screwy shield HUD ani (although I released a fix for that a few years ago).

The Boanerges has excellent missile capacities but the way its primary gunpoints are placed some distance away from the eyepoint can get annoying. Same goes for the Ursa, actually.

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The Ursa owns them all. Nothing can match its payload (except the Seraphim, which doesn't count).


eh, the Sekhmet and Boanerges have the same total missile capacity. The Boanerges can actually carry an extra Helios bomb due to the way FS2 rounds up missile capacities.
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