[Bobboau]

that's what I'm hopeing for

[Sandwich]

*installs Linux*

[Windrunner]

oh crap...
if this is comes to more hacker attacks, i don't know what i'll do.
i am so sick and tired of installing new securety patches from MS

[Singh]

i just realized something...
MS has dug itself into a grave here.
Why?
Any GOOD programmer with some sense of Morals wont speak up where they got the code from, because of fear from the insinuating lawsuits that MS might put on their future work - its more assured that VERY few will say they actually saw it, if any at all.

Any Bad programmer is just going to keep it to themselvesand hack away at it like nobody's business. They dont need to tell anyone - the world will see it in the virri that comes out.

Either way, MS's own legal and greedy policy have done themselves in.

[Grug]

this doesnt include xp tho does it...

but it does use ntfs doesnt it...  hmm

yes big doo doo i thinks

-Grug

[Ashrak]

lets hope my firewall can defend itself

[Bobboau]

for those of you who want to know how closely related XP is to 2000 here is a little snipet from the leaked source

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              /* printf("Welcome to Windows 3.1");    */
               /* printf("Welcome to Windows 3.11");   */
               /* printf("Welcome to Windows 95");     */
               /* printf("Welcome to Windows NT 3.0"); */
               /* printf("Welcome to Windows 98");     */
               /* printf("Welcome to Windows NT 4.0"); */
               printf("Welcome to Windows 2000");


[Beowulf]

Originally posted by Bobboau
for those of you who want to know how closely related XP is to 2000 here is a little snipet from the leaked source

Code: [Select]

              /* printf("Welcome to Windows 3.1");    */
               /* printf("Welcome to Windows 3.11");   */
               /* printf("Welcome to Windows 95");     */
               /* printf("Welcome to Windows NT 3.0"); */
               /* printf("Welcome to Windows 98");     */
               /* printf("Welcome to Windows NT 4.0"); */
               printf("Welcome to Windows 2000");
[/B]

I don't know whether to:

or

[Skippy]

Originally posted by Beowulf


I don't know whether to:

or

Let's use  

[Corsair]

Balls.

[kasperl]

oh my god, if that's normal operating procedure, i don't want to know how big that codefile is.
edit: bob, where did you get that, do you have a full copy of the source?

[karajorma]

Originally posted by Bobboau
for those of you who want to know how closely related XP is to 2000 here is a little snipet from the leaked source

Code: [Select]

              /* printf("Welcome to Windows 3.1");    */
               /* printf("Welcome to Windows 3.11");   */
               /* printf("Welcome to Windows 95");     */
               /* printf("Welcome to Windows NT 3.0"); */
               /* printf("Welcome to Windows 98");     */
               /* printf("Welcome to Windows NT 4.0"); */
               printf("Welcome to Windows 2000");
[/B]

That is one of the funniest programming things I've seen in a long time

From the article I was reading apparently the code expands to around 600MB of data. Given this example they probably only got away with the source code for wordpad!

Seriously though this is pretty worrying. 2k and XP share enough code that a lot of exploits will work on both. Even if they don't there are plenty of 2K boxes out there.

Singh does make a good point that very few white hat programmers will admit to having seen the source cause of MS's legal habits.

[kasperl]

so, what we're looking at is that "nobody" as seen "anything" while people who have seen it will primarily use it to do bad, instead of people doing good by releasing patches to stuff the holes. i already see MS sueing someone who emails them a patch for a security hole.

[karajorma]

Exactly. The white hats might detect a flaw in the code, make an exploit for it and then contact MS but by doing so they give the black hats just as much time to make their own version.

MS should realise what a disaster this is and offer rewards for help rather than trying to squash it.

The worst thing is that whole mess wouldn't make MS look any worse if they handle it properly. It's probably not their fault that the code leaked. Sure their OS is full of holes but anyone computer literate already knew that. The computer illiterate may not have known but by pumping up the "stolen code" angle they could have avoided it being seen as their fault.

Instead they're claiming that nothing is wrong which means that they will take the blame when things start to go wrong.

Hopefully though the code will turn out to be part of Word or something else that doesn't access the net and therefore is reasonably safe from hacking exploits.

[Martinus]

[color=66ff00]Completely hypothetically speaking; if one were to want to get ones hands on a copy of the aforementioned source code what avenue would one procure this fine intellectual™ property™ of Microsoft™™™ from?

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[kasperl]

Kara, the problem is IMHO that if anyone says to MS: "look, i saw the source, here's the leak, and here's a complete patch for it." they'd put every bit of legal power they have to sue that person for seeing and editing the code, and creating a work based on it (that patch). therefor, no one, no one at all would dare to tell MS anything. the only thing MS can do now is release the source completely, and into the linux groups as well, and hope that people  are willing enough to help out.

[aldo_14]

Ms will probably use it as a reason to upgrade to XP or some crap...and this is after they took something like 200 days to fix a system critical bug!?

[Arc]

BetaNews is reporting that the source code is part of Win2000 Service Pack 1, the leak came from a company called MainSoft that creates *nix native versions of Windows applications.

http://www.betanews.com/article.php3?sid=1076674118

[Liberator]

Okay, now we know why XP is a bloated POS.  The entire source code for 2k was admitted to being nearly 40GB.  Umm, I'm thinking nobody could figure it out, and M$ is too apathetic to write new code that does what they want so they just add in on top.  40gb...that's just a little excessive to me.  A full uncompiled distro of Linux slides in at just under 2gb, libraries and all.

[kasperl]

not a usefull compile, i am not sure what to say about that. it makes it harder to use it for bug fixing, but it doesn't seem to do much in terms of exploit seeking.