[Blaise Russel]

I like the Ares. It's a heavy fighter, looks cool and is RED. Just think how slow it'd be if it wasn't painted red.

(Everyone knows that red cars go faster, right?)

[ZylonBane]

Originally posted by Unknown Target
And the Ares is too slow to be viable, imho. It's so slow, that the firepower and armor bonus is almost completely negated.

The Ares doesn't need to be fast when it can pack enough Trebs to plink any incoming fighters before they can get in range. And if it runs out of Trebs, it's got enough primaries to shred anything in its way. Linked-fire Maxims and Kaysers, anyone?

[Janos]

I have practically never been shot down when flying an Ares. It's so tough that you can easily shoot down that wing of Astaroths attacking you while suffering only shield damage and minor paintjob problems. Even Seraphims and Nephilims are just meat for it. It's still not as good as Ery in missions including large numbers of Nephilims, because eventually you will run out of Trebs, and the low speed negates many possibilites for succesful interception runs. But in other situations careful thruster usage and missile selection will ALWAYS turn the tables in favour of an Ares wing.

/me ends pimping Ares.

[bbobb]

I've flown in it a few times, but I was asking more about its significance within the context of the game's story.

[karajorma]

It's not mentioned in the story since it's supposed to be a bonus. Otherwise if you skipped the SOC missions you'd never see it and thus would be wondering what the hell they were talking about when they mentioned the class

[diamondgeezer]

They could have had a SEXP fire to deliver a command brief section convering it

[Stealth[cro]]

The Ares is definitely a fun thing to fly, at least for a "tank" driver like me. It may steer like a wooden log, but as long as it can take the puncishment and return in a bloodlust...

[karajorma]

Originally posted by diamondgeezer
They could have had a SEXP fire to deliver a command brief section convering it

No they couldn't. Mission Brief yes but comand briefs aren't SEXP dependant.  And a mission brief wouldn't have had a nice CB ani to show the Ares off which would seem odd since all the other ships were introduced with an ani.

The only way they could have gotten a Com Brief would be to make two versions of the mission.

[Trivial Psychic]

Perhaps the SCP could find a way to add a usage window, like there is with the mission briefing window,  to the command briefing section.  That way, the command breifing could be altered in this manner using sexps is-previous-xxx-true/false to accomplish said changes.

Later!

[Raven2001]

Wrong, the [V] dudes were just too lazy to trigger a SEXP in a CBriefing that would only be shown if the player flew and succeeded the mission where you get the Ares...

[diamondgeezer]

Since Kara pointed out yet another of my stupidities, I'm going to point out yours Raven

[Turnsky]

*wants to see a high-poly Ares, like what had been done with the herc 1*

[Raven2001]

hmmm yeah, I didn't notice the second page of the theread... so err *runs*

[karajorma]

Originally posted by diamondgeezer
Since Kara pointed out yet another of my stupidities, I'm going to point out yours Raven

You've pointed out a few of mine. We're pretty much even I'd say

[TrashMan]

The Ares is the Best (Persius comes second)!

Has enough firepower to shread anything, shields and hull of a bomber and it still is fast enough to do the job.
I played all the last missions with it and have never regreed it..
The Bastion mission is practicly impossible without it...

Handles like a potato? Didn't notice it too much...Been busy squashing shivan fighter wings (alone) after sending my wingmates home

[Odyssey]

[color=cc9900]If it can't down a Dragon in under half a minute with only primaries, it doesn't cut it. Therefore, no Ares for me, thanks. I'll take a Ulysses any day.[/color]

[Bobboau]

then you are simply not takeing advantage of it's abilities, every fighter in the game is good, even the myrmadon, some are better at some tasks than others, the ares is particcularly good at laying waist to bomber wings and torching small capships.

[Setekh]

Originally posted by Blaise Russel
I like the Ares. It's a heavy fighter, looks cool and is RED. Just think how slow it'd be if it wasn't painted red.

I think it'd drop at least 20m/s. V did a good job with the paintjob, too.

[Odyssey]

Originally posted by Bobboau
then you are simply not takeing advantage of it's abilities, every fighter in the game is good, even the myrmadon, some are better at some tasks than others, the ares is particcularly good at laying waist to bomber wings and torching small capships.

[color=cc9900]Sure, it has its advantages. However, it also has major disadvantages. I tend to prefer something average across the board when I'm playing, if only to take advantage of unexpected situations.[/color]

[Martinus]

[color=66ff00]My favourite and preferred fighter, takes a serious beating and is armed to the mittens.

Load up on trebuchets and you're virtually a god in an Ares.
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