[karajorma]

The game looks very primative (well it is over 15 years old!) but for sheer gameplay it is one of the best I've played Had I-war been a little easier to mod I might have made a conversion myself

As for the pseudostellar missiles you're okay as long as they don't actually impact your hull. Before that your MDC vapourises the missile before it can detonate

[Ashrak]

X2 and Darkspace

[aldo_14]

Damn, I forgot about terminal velocity.  That kicked arse, too.... there shareware-free-bit was huge......

[Nico]

yeah, it went up to that Deathstar-like level

[aldo_14]

Could probably do a TV clone with freespace, nowadays.  Provided you could cram a full level in with HT&L.... might need to have fogigng for that, tho.

Still, i've always wanted to make an old-style mod, just you, a fighter and several thousand gunpoints against hundreds of enemies.......

[jdjtcagle]

Originally posted by Woolie Wool


Do I have to answer such a stupid question?

YES!!!:p

[Nico]

Originally posted by aldo_14
Could probably do a TV clone with freespace, nowadays.  Provided you could cram a full level in with HT&L.... might need to have fogigng for that, tho.

Still, i've always wanted to make an old-style mod, just you, a fighter and several thousand gunpoints against hundreds of enemies.......

Me too
And if I could add an orbiter or two to the player' ship, would be even better

[aldo_14]

Originally posted by Nico


Me too
And if I could add an orbiter or two to the player' ship, would be even better

That would indeed kick arse.

Shame you can;t jury rig anything with the support ship/s.

[Star Dragon]

Lets see:

   WC3 (heart of the Tiger ) played on Panasonic 3DO... Starring Mark Hamil and Ginger Lynn (she can do my loadouts anytime!   )

   Star Trek Academy (definately cheeseville today, but back then was teh shiznit)
 
  Klingon Academy (Chang from St6 is your instructor how cool is that?) Much better game and still relevant for starship combat.

   that and FS2 is all I love for SPACE COMBAT sims...

[Flipside]

Elite, birthplace of the 3D Radar That really was a cool game even if it looks fecking old now

I must admit 01010, you are the first person who I have EVER heard saying they enjoyed the Elite sequels! I used to get fed up with 'too' real physics, which made the game, for me, a chore to play, and constant crashes

[Petrarch of the VBB]

Originally posted by Star Dragon
Klingon Academy (Chang from St6 is your instructor how cool is that?) Much better game and still relevant for starship combat.

Oooh yeah. I'd forgotten about that. Pwned, so it did.

[karajorma]

Originally posted by Flipside
I must admit 01010, you are the first person who I have EVER heard saying they enjoyed the Elite sequels! I used to get fed up with 'too' real physics, which made the game, for me, a chore to play, and constant crashes

Never played elite but I quite liked Frontier. I think I managed to make it to the rank of dangerous or deadly before I gave up

[Zeronet]

IW2, Freelancer.

[01010]

Originally posted by Flipside
Elite, birthplace of the 3D Radar That really was a cool game even if it looks fecking old now

I must admit 01010, you are the first person who I have EVER heard saying they enjoyed the Elite sequels! I used to get fed up with 'too' real physics, which made the game, for me, a chore to play, and constant crashes

I loved Frontier to death, it was just the sheer open endedness of the game, the fact that I could go wherever the hell I liked and do what I liked really appeals to me still, that's why I love games like GTA3 and Vice City too.

[mikhael]

Open ended design is sooo groovy. Shame its never ever been done.

Once the story is out of the way, its like someone rips away the facade and reveals that the whole thing is just repetitive crap over and over and over and... well you get the idea.

[Ghostavo]

If you love open ended games, you should play Universal Combat .

[aldo_14]

Originally posted by mikhael
Open ended design is sooo groovy. Shame its never ever been done.

Once the story is out of the way, its like someone rips away the facade and reveals that the whole thing is just repetitive crap over and over and over and... well you get the idea.

Well, yeah - but until we get a story-telling AI that can run-games on the fly, that's the way it'll be.

Of course, something like GTA is good because the gameplay is so well balanced - even the mundane stuff is fun.  And any sports-game as well (PES, Championship Manager, etc) sort of applies, because there's no story needed atall there - that's why it's the purest form of gameplay.

[Corsair]

FS2
Rogue Squadron

[mikhael]

Originally posted by aldo_14
Well, yeah - but until we get a story-telling AI that can run-games on the fly, that's the way it'll be.

That'll never happen. That's why I detest MMORPGs and games like Morrowind. They go against the nature of storytelling (which is the essence of all games complex games*)








*complex game: a game where the goal is not a simple contest. sports games are 'simple' games, because the goal is a simple contest. An RPG is a complex game, because it consists of a series of contests that are tied together in a that hinges on factors outside the contests.

[aldo_14]

Originally posted by mikhael

That'll never happen. That's why I detest MMORPGs and games like Morrowind. They go against the nature of storytelling (which is the essence of all games complex games*)








*complex game: a game where the goal is not a simple contest. sports games are 'simple' games, because the goal is a simple contest. An RPG is a complex game, because it consists of a series of contests that are tied together in a that hinges on factors outside the contests.

Wouldn't Championship Manager count as a complex game, then?