[Liberator]

A look at the agenda John Kerry truly subscribes to, courtesy of his voting record.

[aldo_14]

Is that suppossed to be a negative or positive comment?

[.::Tin Can::.]

OMG! Those are so funny. "Flag burning is displeasing, but its free expression"

What kind of an idiot is Kerry? It seems all the cadidates want to do is critisize Bush for all the things he has done. Which candidate has said every campaign speech, at least 8 things they plan to do with the United States if they are elected? How about 5? 3? You list them to me, all Dean, Kerry, the whole 9 yards, and I will start to think these guys actually have a plan.

Other then that, I would vote for George Bush next term. People ***** about coming into Iraq too early, but Hatti too late. Kerry's words. But, all this bull**** about George Bush's military record is just driving me insane. WHO CARES?! And Dean saying "I couldnt serve in Vietnam because of George Bush" is outright bull****. I should slap some of these guys.

 Thumbs up for George Bush

[phreak]

this is going to get fugly

fast

[.::Tin Can::.]

then let people come and rant and rave about how George Bush sucks and Dean is better. I've heard them all. Its all anyone knows how to do anymore because everyone thinks that George Bush is a looser and they track EVERYTHING that he does and make sure he screws up and looks for mistakes every which way. Jesus, why cant people grow up already.

[aldo_14]

Y'know, until now i had no major preference in who won this upcoming election, so long as it wasn;t bush.  But a quick skim through that list of votes does actually make me like Kerry (as in, if I was a voter in the Us I'd vote for 'im), cos there's a lot of sensible stuff there.

[Stryke 9]

Tin Can: Their campaign plans are no secret, you know. Just because the newspapers want to make Bush the only issue doesn't mean that's all anybody cares about. While it's true that Dean ran primarily on a platform of reversing all the ****ups Bush has made while in office (four years of work there at minimum anyway), they all had pretty explicit election plans. Kerry's isn't anything spectacular, he's basically just promising everything the Dems' standard centrist-right general platform dictates.

Kerry's a turd in general, though. He voted in the Patriot Act, took money from some of the less moral corporations recently (last I checked, ****in' news services are all requiring ****in' passwords these days and like hell I'm going to register at them all), and generally has a record of not really standing up for jack **** and being barely distinguishable as Democrat, Republican, or anything else. He panders to the politics of people who don't give a **** about politics, and should he come into office he'll almost certainly be a cypher. I guess it's too much to ask for to nominate a candidate who actually believes in something these days, but even among that mass of politicians that don't you couldn't get more whitebread than Kerry.

[Rictor]

Stryke's words coming out of my mouth.
And I used to be such a nice guy.

[an0n]

When are you people gonna learn?

Democracy only ever means you get the lesser of two evils. And I'd rather have Kerry screwing with the abortion rights of US women than Bush screwing with the Korean military.

[Knight Templar]

Err.. panderous or not, he appeals a lot more to me (minus the Patriot Act bit) than anyone else has so far.

EDIT: And he sort of contradicts himself a bit on Iraq...

[an0n]

Actually, allowing the PATRIOT Act through with a sunset clause was better than flat-out killing it.

If you let it through, you can cripple any future implimentations by citing how ****ty it did in its first 3 (?) years of operation, as it inevitably would.

It's like if you killed Hitler in 1930. No-one would ever know why he was killed and no lessons woulda been learned during WW2, like "Nuking people is bad".

[.::Tin Can::.]

So... whos side is Stryke on?

[an0n]

Depends. Which side are you on?

[Stryke 9]

an0n: Actually, I'm not so sure about that... Generally speaking, people want to become President for a reason. Even Bush went into office with some explicit goals in mind. Granted, his goals involved milking the American populace for as much as possible, burying a few bodies, and securing an extremist powerbase that is now and will continue to erode the democratic process in the country for years, but at least we know why he went in. Kerry, on the other hand, has no outstanding issues, no explicit goal, no significant political ties, and no evidence of any interests that'd merit a sense that he needed to be President. So we're left with either a guy who's done a very good job of hiding his political agenda, or a man who wants to be President simply because he thinks he should be. In other words, a powermonger. And that, especially after all the stress the American political system has gone under in the past four years, would be death.

EDIT: Yeah, this is in reference to a couple posts up. Went to get a bite halfway through typing.

[Bobboau]

you know I was leaning twards Bush just becase I like us useing our military, but now I'm sort of likeing Kerry, he is slightlyly further to the left than I would like, but not too far

[mikhael]

Kerry is not my candidate. I'm more an Edwards guy.

So I did a little agree/disagree score card going down that list, just to see what the spread would be. It turns out that I agree with Kerry six times more often than I disagree with him. Not bad at all. By my thinking, that makes him excellent presidential material.

I think I should look up what they have on Bush and see how that comes out. Thanks for the site, Liberator.

[Stryke 9]

It doesn't make anybody even a little worried that he's so totally unobjectionable from every political angle, does it.

[phreak]

most of the Bush quotes are from 2000 or before.  some stances may have changed depending on the many events that have occured since then

[Ace]

Originally posted by Liberator
A look at the agenda John Kerry truly subscribes to, courtesy of his voting record.

Read it. So what's the hidden evil agenda there? Other then maintaining a secular state

[an0n]

He's a "keep things running" kinda guy.

He won't rape the economy to line the pockets of his corporate masters ( ), but he won't be instituting state-funded healthcare either.

He'll make things nice and workable, if not a little unremarkable.