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Offline Kamikaze

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Took Kendo a short time a while ago, main motivation was to keep fit. Right now I just weightlift to keep fit.
Science alone of all the subjects contains within itself the lesson of the danger of belief in the infallibility of the greatest teachers in the preceding generation . . .Learn from science that you must doubt the experts. As a matter of fact, I can also define science another way: Science is the belief in the ignorance of experts. - Richard Feynman

 

Offline Gortef

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Originally posted by Nico


Oh, the light and fast varient of what I use: table-fu :yes:
We artists rock, nothing more deadly than trowing a few pen-riken, performing some art-jutsu or fleeing while the opponent tries to get rid of the paint in the eyes :D


don't forget Kage-eraser no Jutsu :F
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Offline Nico

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the multi eraser duplication? I don't have neough chakra for that one :p
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Offline Martinus

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[color=66ff00]I'm going to have to let the other points go due to an inability to provide proof or a reliable source at the moment, all but this one:[/color]

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I would.  It's a fact.  You know that as much as I do.  Sure there's there's other "lethal" styles out there, but the most effective arts in the world are the internal styles.  it's a fact, and you know it.  the internal styles are the most powerful and effective.


[color=66ff00]In order to know that the soft styles are the most lethal I would have to have a complete knowledge of every other style that exists, I obviously don't so I can't possibly say with any surity that your statement is correct so I'll have to asume that it isn't until I have enough information overall. So I'm not saying that the soft arts aren't the most lethal, I'm simply saying that the possibility exists that there is a form of hand to hand combat that is more lethal.

Does that make sense?

Oh and yes, I do study wing chun. :nod:
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Offline TheCelestialOne

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Note: ALL martial arts can be applied in such a manner that it makes them lethal. There is no "most/least lethal". It's how you apply them.
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Offline Stealth

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Originally posted by Maeglamor

[color=66ff00]In order to know that the soft styles are the most lethal I would have to have a complete knowledge of every other style that exists, I obviously don't so I can't possibly say with any surity that your statement is correct so I'll have to asume that it isn't until I have enough information overall. So I'm not saying that the soft arts aren't the most lethal, I'm simply saying that the possibility exists that there is a form of hand to hand combat that is more lethal.
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hey man, i never mentioned an art being more "lethal" than the other!  if was you!  you said:
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Dude the internal arts are all about fighting, in fact I'd classify them as far more lethal than most other martial arts. The reasoning behind this is that the internal arts were designed to do the maximum damage with the minimum effort. This is the reason why there is no sporting side to the internal arts, a well executed strike could kill. (well in the non watered down versions anyway)

and then you started saying:
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I would not claim that the soft styles are more lethal than every other style, that's presumptious


you contradicted yourself :)
you were the first person to mention the word "lethal" in this page, and that was in the above quote ;)  

so it wasn't me that categorized internal martial arts as the most lethal.  it was you
:)

TheCelestialOne:  yes, i agree with you on that for the most part :nod:
« Last Edit: March 09, 2004, 03:40:58 pm by 594 »

 

Offline TheCelestialOne

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:doubt:

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Originally posted by Stealth

hey man, i never mentioned an art being more "lethal" than the other!

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Originally posted by Stealth

You know that as much as I do. Sure there's there's other "lethal" styles out there, but the most effective arts in the world are the internal styles.


:rolleyes:
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Offline Stealth

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note how i put "lethal" in quotation marks (i.e.:  " ")... because i was quoting what Maeglamor said:

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Dude the internal arts are all about fighting, in fact I'd classify them as far more lethal than most other martial arts. The reasoning behind this is {etc. etc. etc.}


Maeglamor was the first person to categorize the internal martial arts as more "lethal" than others.  not me.
« Last Edit: March 09, 2004, 04:13:42 pm by 594 »

 

Offline magatsu1

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I think asking which is most lethal is a mute point. Any of you guys really gonna beat a guy to death ?

Also, I believe it's not so much which style you pratice, but how you apply yourself to a particular style, and an individual's general temperment, personality etc.


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« Last Edit: March 09, 2004, 04:26:12 pm by 1343 »
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Offline Stealth

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yeah i don't really believe in using the word "lethal" too often when it comes to martial arts, but oh well

 

Offline Gortef

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Originally posted by Nico
the multi eraser duplication? I don't have neough chakra for that one :p


Shadow-Eraser actually :D
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Offline Martinus

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[color=66ff00]At no point did I say that the soft styles are the most lethal. Please consider carefully:

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Dude the internal arts are all about fighting, in fact I'd classify them as far more lethal than most other martial arts.


This statement makes no claim that those arts are the most lethal, just that they are more lethal than most I've studied. At most it's a mildly ambigous statement but my intention was never to claim that the soft styles excel all other styles in any case.

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I would not claim that the soft styles are more lethal than every other[/b] style, that's presumptious


I don't see where I contradicted myself, moreso I really don't see how you think I contradicted myself. *shrugs*
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Offline Martinus

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Originally posted by magatsu1
I think asking which is most lethal is a mute point. Any of you guys really gonna beat a guy to death ?

Also, I believe it's not so much which style you pratice, but how you apply yourself to a particular style, and an individual's general temperment, personality etc.


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(not me though):sigh:

[color=66ff00]The discussion of lethality is more of a consideration of which art is the most efficient at doing the greatest damage with the minimum effort. (that's how I consider it anyhow).

The soft styles rely on striking critical damage points on the human body (also known as pressure points or acupressure points depending on who you talk to. As an interesting side effect the soft styles also convey health benefits to the practitioner above those normally associated with straightforward physical activity. Still, my point is this: All martial arts (with the exception of those classed as sports and a few that are ceremonial) are designed to protect oneself, hence lethality is a requirement of a good martial art.

Obviously in the modern age martial arts become more of an interesting exercise form and are practiced less for their potential to protect the practitioner from attack.
I study Wing Chun because it's fun, requires no excessive period to master and it's pretty much designed for someone of my build and flexability. It's also a decent way to get fit and teaches me a lot about my body. :nod:
I never pursued it as a method of 'kicking someones head in', as meany other people have said, it's far more likely in this day and age that you'd use a gun. :)
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Offline Nico

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Originally posted by Gortef


Shadow-Eraser actually :D


isn't "bushin" the shadow part? :p
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Offline Stealth

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Originally posted by Maeglamor

[color=66ff00]Still, my point is this: All martial arts (with the exception of those classed as sports and a few that are ceremonial) are designed to protect oneself, hence lethality is a requirement of a good martial art.[/color]


and i agree with that.  so what are we arguing about? :D :)
i never said anything about an art being more lethal than another though, only after you mentioned it

 

Offline Havock

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I think asking which is most lethal is a mute point. Any of you guys really gonna beat a guy to death ?
 


if it would save my butt, or that of a friend: yes.

 

Offline Gortef

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Originally posted by Nico


isn't "bushin" the shadow part? :p


I thought bunshin is the clone part...
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