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Offline Fineus

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I think some people are losing site of the fact that FS2 has come so damn far. This kind of thing would never have been possible a few years ago. Look at it now! Sure it's not as beautiful as Breed or Halo or Farcry but for a 5+ year old space sim, it's damn impressive. And as they've pointed out it's not even a beta yet. I'm impressed. Nice job guys!

 

Offline Stryke 9

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I do like the blue thing.

 

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Crikey

 

Offline Havock

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today an island, tomorrow the world? :p

 

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I'm interested to see how far this engine can be stretched.

Looks awesome!

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Offline Nico

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looks much better w/o the reflections. But the island map is bad, sorry. If I'm saying that, it'sbecause I believe it can be way better, not to be an ass. Otherwise I wouldn't even bother posting.

That map has obviously been photoshoped, then use as both a diffuse and bump map, the result has been rendered/backed up and then has been reassigned to the island through a top UV mapping ( if I'm wrong, I'll make you a map :p ).
You're gonna tell me it's easy to criticize when you've not done it yourself, but funnily enough I've done about the same thing last month ( for my new Oleon Wars project ):



( it's not top notch, but it worked for why I needed to do with it, and the choice of colours is made to make it cartoonish )
I see a few ways of improving the thing:
1) make your work based on the shadows of the mesh render ( paint with your brush as fusion, low opacity, and be patient ), force on the darker parts ( canyons ). Use the hard brush, not the one that fades on its borders.
2) paint the peaks with brighter colors ( can be easy to overdo it, so mght be wise to do that on a separate layer )
3) don't hesitate and try fancy brushes for the green parts ( plants )
but, the most important part:
4) don't rush the map. On landscapes, Maps ARE the most important part, you can get away with a low polycount, but not with rushed maps.

Oh, yeah, my island is meant to fly, but not yours, so I'd add an additional layer and would paint the foam along the island' edges, would make the thing blend better with the sea ( think about having the most outer border unregular and blue as the ocean, or you'll still have the hard edges and that will defeat the whole purpose of the thing ).

Voila, hope it helps.
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HOLY CRAP! I did not think this was possible. I hope sometime in the future a campaign is made with this.

 
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I agree that the island is kind of ugly.
Mmh, where did Aki put his macross island model? ( like you're the only ones having stuff like that ;) )


Macross island model?? Where??

  

Offline Lt.Cannonfodder

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I think some people are losing site of the fact that FS2 has come so damn far. This kind of thing would never have been possible a few years ago. Look at it now! Sure it's not as beautiful as Breed or Halo or Farcry but for a 5+ year old space sim, it's damn impressive. And as they've pointed out it's not even a beta yet. I'm impressed. Nice job guys!


Hear hear! :nod:

 

Offline Flipside

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Well, the island was literally thrown together to be honest, I just wanted to see if I could everything in a mission at the same time, running under FSO. Now I know it works, I'll spend some time honing it :)

 

Offline Unknown Target

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Macross island model?? Where??


Give me a bit of time, I might be able to scrounge it up on the RT forums :)

 

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@Nico
Thanks for the pointers, I'm sure Flip'll take them into consideration :)

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Offline phreak

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now to get rid of those space debris pieces
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Offline Nico

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Macross island model?? Where??


Don't wet your pants, it remained in beta stage, not mapped nor anything. But I remember seeing an avi of it showing ingame, was nice.
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Bah I say! You know how I feel. :p
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Offline Flipside

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Heh, the thing that kind of ruins it is the lack of the islands' reflection in the water, but Since FS2 wasn't designed for this, and it would involve, I believe, a certain amount of raytracing, it won't be happening :)

 
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Sniff* ;) Oh well. I still wanna see a standalone mission where you have to defend a moon base from Shivans ;)

either that or a mission to save an orion class destroyer posessing an advanced engine prototype that fell into the ocean and needs to be repaired within 10 minutes else it sinks to the bottom...heheh...

 

Offline karajorma

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Heh, the thing that kind of ruins it is the lack of the islands' reflection in the water, but Since FS2 wasn't designed for this, and it would involve, I believe, a certain amount of raytracing, it won't be happening :)


Unless you add the island to the texture you're using for the water.

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LOL

Problem is, it's tiled... it's possible I suppose, using a different texture for one part of the material, but that would be a mega-nightmare job :( I'll have to wait for shadows from the SCP guys and live with that ;)

 

Offline Nico

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bleh, they dealed with that problem in FS4 before ( yeah, you read right, the old DOS based flight simulator ). You thought they had raytracing? :p
Make the sea half transparent, mirror the island downward, put it under the regular island.
voila. Now, of course, your sea is animated, so you can't make it transparent, I suppose? There lies the problem.

As for "non tweaking" versions... well, there's games with real time reflections ( I can only think of dead or alive 3 right now, tho ), so it's possible to code it. How difficult it is, I couldn't tell, not my job anyway :p
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