[Star Dragon]

You re-invented the HADES... Seriously consider this. from the middle to rear it looks very terran like (ignore the textures I'm talking shapes), the front is nice shivan like. I suggest yo ukeep a copy of this model just as it is and name it the GTI Pluto (the Roman name for Hades).. To me it's a cool idea...?

[karajorma]

The front spikes are still a little too boxy for my liking but they're a definate improvement. Now do the same for the rest of the ship

As for the flying around inside a ship you used to be able to do that with that DS9 style station who's name escapes me (it began with a K)

[aldo_14]

Karnak(?)

[karajorma]

Sounds familliar. I'm none too sure of the spelling either

[Terawatt_99]

UBERSHIVANISE!!!! :yes:

the new one looks a lit better, like has been said, do what you did to the front to the rest of the ship, and it will be hella-cool

[Nuke]

thats the tail, the boxy thing is the front. i think i could fix that up without screwing up the uv space. i will try to see what can be done.

[Star Dragon]

You said "Hella"  

Stan & Kyle, "Stop saying hella!"

Cartman... "hella no!"

   I loved that episode... I mean I "hella loved it!"

[ionia23]

Originally posted by Nuke
thats the tail, the boxy thing is the front. i think i could fix that up without screwing up the uv space. i will try to see what can be done.

Nuke, hello.

How about some feedback from someone who really hasn't spent a lot of time in the modding forums but has played FS to death?

Shivan vessels in general, with a few exceptions, look like insects to me.  Hence all the theory on them being a collective mind.

What this vessel looks like to me is a much larger version of the Shivan Cargo ship from the first FS2 mission to the Knossos portal.  

I forget the name, Nequael I think?  It's the last cargo ship to come through the portal.  Has four big prongs on the front of it, very uniform design.

The Sathanas, especially, looks like a great big bug.  I think that's what you're going for here.  More curvature ought to do the trick.

Brilliant so far!

Wait, I've got it.

Those four huge prongs on the ship.  What about lining them with curved, pointy splikes on the outside, like insect hairs but bigger?  I am under the impression those are the engines.

[Nuke]

i did a satanah thing there. the idea is that those bfreds use of power, so it makes sense to put them close to a power source, such as an engine's reactors. the bfreds are only this ship's secondary weapon, the big stingerlike apendate on the bottom is a gargantuan beam turret. the idea behind the ship is to make something that can stand up to ragnarok/valhalla's meson torpedoes. so that apengage will fire the "uber shivan death cannon". the big boxy thing in the front is actually 4 fighter bays, as this ship also doubles as a carrier. those bays have tunnels that pass all the way in to the tail of the ship, which will house a shield reactor. this is supposed to be a next generation shian scout ship (like the lucifer).

[Taristin]

...not another super big shivan beam...

[Nuke]

i didnt say "uber shivan death beam canon", did i? i thought i about using a transparent pof/glow based laser thing.

[Trivial Psychic]

Why don't you just make it a giant dumbfire secondary.

Later!

[Nuke]

because thats the ragnarok/valhalla trademark. its fun to watch a sathanas get pelted by hundreds of nuclear warheads

[.::Tin Can::.]

That last guy had a point: the shivan ships share an insect-like quality, and are basically TOTALLY organic looking, meaning nothing on the ships is square. Keep that in mind.

[Nuke]

nothing on the ship is square, you guys are just seent the fat side if a triangular structure.

[ionia23]

Originally posted by Nuke
nothing on the ship is square, you guys are just seent the fat side if a triangular structure.

I wouldn't be surprised at all.

In the ship's current stage of development, is it possible to see a screenshot in-game?

[Nico]

Originally posted by .::Tin Can::.
That last guy had a point: the shivan ships share an insect-like quality, and are basically TOTALLY organic looking, meaning nothing on the ships is square. Keep that in mind.

ah. the manticore is so totaly rounded it could still roll if it didn't have thrusters.
Or the Scorpion. Or the Naema. Or, the Cain? Or any shivan ship, in fact?
Lesson of shivan design:
1) There's no such thing as a rounded shivan ship. Light, I repeat: "light" curves ( and they're far from being mandatory ) and hard angles, that's all. The mara is probably the closest you'd get from a rounded ship.
2) That stupid "spike" deal: Find me a shivan ship that has more than 6 of those. If you find only 1/4 of them , I'll never talk about shivan designs again, promise. I think people mix shivans and shadows. I know they're ubber similar, but they're not the sames.

[Setekh]

Looks Shivan to me. It's a bit of a change seeing the textures of the small tube part of the Ravana on such a large subsection, but I like it.

[Nuke]

i might make a new high-res texture to replace that one. the arms already have a custom texture (completed the beam cannon part finally). i might also make new tiles to replace corvstile2a and supertile5a. tiles arent all that hard to do. i also intend to use of glow effects. ive almost completed all of the uv mapping, though i need to work on the interior (mainly the internal reactor core) and turrets. im gonna autogen the turrets this time so once its done it sould be pretty quick to convert.

[Janos]

Originally posted by Nico

2) That stupid "spike" deal: Find me a shivan ship that has more than 6 of those. If you find only 1/4 of them , I'll never talk about shivan designs again, promise. I think people mix shivans and shadows. I know they're ubber similar, but they're not the sames.

I think people understand "spikey" differently from each other.
Let's see:
Moloch, Rakshasa, Ravana, Mara, Taurvi, Nahema, Demon... I think they all count as spiky, but not in the Sathanas way - saying, they have spikes and sharp angles, but they're not like Shadow Battlecrab.

And Shivan designes, [V] ones, are so diverse that it's quite hard to talk about Shivan design. Compare Manticore, Dragon and Astaroth, for example. (Wait, I'm, talking about Shivan design..    )