[J3Vr6]

Yeah it's the OPEC of jewelry.

[Shrike]

Originally posted by Kazan
i honestly don't know who the supplier was - but the diamond industry is all one big cartel

Shows what you know.  You realize the Canadian diamond firms have a very good chance of breaking the de beers monopoly wide open, right?

[Kazan]

Actually the Lab diamond firms have the best chance

[Kazan]

i figured i probably should respond to this

Originally posted by Liberator
Kaz are you suspious of everybodies motives?

maybe your problem is that you _don't_

You should always consider possible motives when trying to figure out another persons actions, thoughts, etc.

[Odyssey]

[color=cc9900]You should always consider possible motives, on that point I agree. However, how you act on those considerations requires more careful thought depending on the situation - it doesn't always involve jumping down someone's throat, inviting though it may seem.[/color]

[karajorma]

Originally posted by Liberator
Men have, socially anyway, always been considered the providers.  A Wife can depend on their Husband for all financial matters and not be chastised.  Husbands who depend on their Wives for support are considered to be bastards of one sort or another.

I'm not talking about support. I'm talking about a gift to show that you love your fiance. Why should only men have to do that?

 Men should demand a big screen TV as an engagement gift. It would be symbolic of the fact that we're settling down and spending most nights at home instead of out partying with the lads

[Odyssey]

[color=cc9900]An engagement gift that destroys marriages? Interesting idea, to be sure ^_^[/color]

[mikhael]

My wife wanted to give me an engagement ring, but I vetoed it. She also wanted me to have a bachelor's party, but I vetoed that too.

As for exactly why women generally don't give men engagement rings and the like: it boils down to the general disregard society has for post-mating males. But that's another conversation.

[Setekh]

Well, I hardly know what to say. Hope you have a happy life, Kazan.

[Knight Templar]

Originally posted by mikhael
My wife wanted to give me an engagement ring, but I vetoed it. She also wanted me to have a bachelor's party, but I vetoed that too.

As for exactly why women generally don't give men engagement rings and the like: it boils down to the general disregard society has for post-mating males. But that's another conversation.

Makes me wonder what else you "vetoed"...

[Shrike]

Originally posted by Kazan
Actually the Lab diamond firms have the best chance

Except lab diamonds aren't authentic, and authenticity will always have a place.

[an0n]

Ah, the goth-ness asserts itself.

Just accept that everyone and everything is fake and move on, Shrikey. I know it's hard but......err.........Carry on.

[Kazan]

Originally posted by Shrike
Except lab diamonds aren't authentic, and authenticity will always have a place.

define "aren't authentic" because they're the exact same crystal matrix, and are typically flawless

[Thorn]

Originally posted by Kazan


define "aren't authentic" because they're the exact same crystal matrix, and are typically flawless

These ones didnt take a few million years to make...

[Kazan]

actually naturally occuring ones don't take a million years to make.. they don't take that long to crystalize


you two just mean they're not "authentically fakely-scare"

[Thorn]

Originally posted by Kazan
actually naturally occuring ones don't take a million years to make.. they don't take that long to crystalize


you two just mean they're not "authentically fakely-scare"

Actually I couldt care either way, I was just guessing at what he meant...
I'm not into the ring thing. If I want to tell a girl I love her and want to spend the rest of my life, I'll bloody say it.

[Liberator]

Don't mind Kaz, he hates almost everybody and just isn't man enough to admit it.

Scratch that, he hates people who make their living scheistering(sp?) people and everybody who's not a bible burning atheist.

I still wish him happiness in his new, married life.  

I think 20 is too young and so does just about everybody else with any expertise on the subject.  Hell, at 20 I wasn't sure what was going to be happening 5 days away, much less needing to plan for children, private school if you prefer, college after that, and God know what else.

Despite this, Kazan, with all the sincerity I can muster, I hope you and your Chosen have a wonderful life the likes of which you can't even imagine yet.

[Shrike]

Originally posted by Kazan
you two just mean they're not "authentically fakely-scare"

Diamonds don't exactly grow on trees either.  While they almost certainly cost more than they're really worth, gem-quality diamonds are still rare.  It's only relatively recently with discoveries in Canada and Siberia that any significant new diamond fields have been found in the last while.  They take some rather specific geologic formations, ones that are not all that common.

Plus artificial diamonds have the stigma of being artificial.  Yes, you can tell them apart.  Artificial diamonds can be too perfect.

As for not authentic, what's the point of buying diamond jewelry if it's not authentic out of the ground?  Aren't you getting it because you want something expensive?  Like I said, if it was me I'd get something totally different.  There's a lot of more attractive gemstones out there, ones that don't look like a chunk of extra-sparkly glass.

[Liberator]

Like amethysts, emeralds, topazes and, mmmm, saphires.

[übermetroid]

This is cool.  I am shopping for an Ring.  Anybody have any good sites to look at?  Up north or fake is ok by me.