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Offline Bobboau

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Oh noes!
lol wtf

 

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ROFL Red Rag. I'd like you to meet Bull ;)

 

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Schwing!!

Not that 1300 troops is a big deal. Its more of a symbolic victory than practical one.
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yeah, so who is actualy going to say Al Qaeda didn't win in Spain?
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You seem to think that there are only two sides, America and al Queda. If you don't support one, you support the other.

This is, of course, total nonsense.

The war in Iraq was opposed by over 90% of the Spanish people. Aznar had it comming.

 

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Aznar's party was expected to narrowly come out ahead (I think), they got there asses handed to them, this is exactly what Al Qaeda wanted to happen, therefore they win.

due to this reaction I would live in a bomb shelter for the few weeks leading up to your local elections if I were you, I know I'm not going to any major land marks or public institutions for the month or so leading to ours, largely becase of this.
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If anything, IMHO it would have been the PPP's strategy of deliberately blaming ETA - to avoid questions over the war- that would have swung it.....

I wouldn;t chalk it up as an al-Queda victory, though.  Spain haven't pulled out of fighting terrorists, after all - only in supporting a war and occupation which the vast majority of the poulation oppossed.

 

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Oh please. Three thousand people died in the single worst terrorist attack in US history. Thats out of a total population of around 200 million. If you think you're lucky enough to be killed in a terrorist strike, I'de start buying lottery tickets if I were you.

And I hardly call losing the election by 5% "getting their asses handed to them". Its still a minority government, so don't you fret over Aznar. I'm sure he'll have his bloddy little paws in all sorts of affairs.

Oh and, before I forget, who exactly predicted that Aznar would squeeze out a victory, and why should it be taken as anything other than what it was, a predicition? Here's a prediction. Come next election, Japan's PM will be voted out. If I'm wrong, al Queda wins. Great how that works, eh?

 

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In a way, I agree with you Bobboau, sadly enough, had it been a close thing then it would have been fair enough, but I really do feel the bombs pushed the public against the Prime Minister, because they blamed him for getting involved in Iraq.
However, I don't think this is a win for Terrorism, don't forget the march earlier this week. Yes, it's a pity Spain allowed the bombers to influence them, but then, every country in the world has been influenced by them. Take the loss of civil liberty in the US & UK, I don't believe for one moment that ALL of this is for our protection, so in a way, yes, the Terrorists are destroying freedom, one law at a time.

 

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there will be bombings in Italy and the UK, they will be from AL Qaeda, and Al Qaeda will say they did it becase these contries suported the US in the Iraq war.
this will happen shortly before elections

my prediction.
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Oh and, before I forget, who exactly predicted that Aznar would squeeze out a victory, and why should it be taken as anything other than what it was, a predicition? Here's a prediction. Come next election, Japan's PM will be voted out. If I'm wrong, al Queda wins. Great how that works, eh?


That's a silly statement - the result prediction would have been based upon polling an questionnaires of the voters.

 

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In a way I agree with bobboau. Terrorists are going to look at this as an example of how they can force their agenda through bombing. They should have instead left the troops in Iraq for a few months, let the public complain and then bring them back making it look as though it was public opinion that forced the issue rather than terrorism.

This decision has made life more dangerous for Brits and Yanks because they've made it more likely that terrorists will try to do the same here but it's also made the current Spanish goverment look weak which will probably embolden ETA somewhat.

All in all I feel this was a very bad thing to do so early after the election.
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Originally posted by Flipside
so in a way, yes, the Terrorists are destroying freedom, one law at a time.


sure the terrorist do the bombings etc.
but they aren't the one destroying "freedom" that would be our governments, they are the ones pushing out these laws, not the terrorists

 

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there will be bombings in Italy and the UK, they will be from AL Qaeda, and Al Qaeda will say they did it becase these contries suported the US in the Iraq war.
this will happen shortly before elections

my prediction.


I second that, it's about the same as I said earlier in the thread.
if not tomorrow, they WILL probably be struck by terrorist bombings in the following months, it wouldn't surprise me one bit

 

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Zuljin, yes, that's exactly what I meant ;)

I know our own elections will be steeped in security, but it could backfire here. A lot of people want to get rid of Blair, but if people are nervous about going to polling stations, there will be a low turnout, which makes it very difficult to oust the current government, so the Terrorists could actually be keeping in the very people they want to get rid of.

 

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Originally posted by karajorma
In a way I agree with bobboau. Terrorists are going to look at this as an example of how they can force their agenda through bombing. They should have instead left the troops in Iraq for a few months, let the public complain and then bring them back making it look as though it was public opinion that forced the issue rather than terrorism.

This decision has made life more dangerous for Brits and Yanks because they've made it more likely that terrorists will try to do the same here but it's also made the current Spanish goverment look weak which will probably embolden ETA somewhat.

All in all I feel this was a very bad thing to do so early after the election.


It was an election pledge for the Socialist party to remove the troops, anyway...... you can't really question what the people want (i.e. what they elected), regardless of their motives behind it.

I just don't like the insinuation that the Spaniards are somehow 'running scared' of al-Queda...... people will try and skew this way, and I don't think it's fair to do so.

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Zuljin, yes, that's exactly what I meant ;)

I know our own elections will be steeped in security, but it could backfire here. A lot of people want to get rid of Blair, but if people are nervous about going to polling stations, there will be a low turnout, which makes it very difficult to oust the current government, so the Terrorists could actually be keeping in the very people they want to get rid of.


Although the anti-war parties in the UK aren't nearly as strong as in spain..... the Tories did support the war, after all.

 

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Zapatero (Aznar was a whole bunch easier to remember) ran on 'USa is Teh bAd!!!11!!1!!' as far as I'm aware, so saying that he's pulling there troops out is sort of the only political move he can make at this moment.
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I don't think of it as cowardice on the part of Spain aldo, after all, America's reaction to being bombed was to invade Afghanistan, Spain isn't really in a position to get pissed off, so they have no choice really but to take a step backwards.

 

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I don't think of it as cowardice on the part of Spain aldo, after all, America's reaction to being bombed was to invade Afghanistan, Spain isn't really in a position to get pissed off, so they have no choice really but to take a step backwards.


I didn't say you did... just that some people will do.  

I just don't want to see the same sort of reprehensible attitude that was directed towards France and Germany in the run up to the Iraq war.