[Fineus]

I can't get them to run either - so I'm using the older Detonater drivers. Rather irritating really. Driver unification is fine so long as they work and the download size doesnt get stupidly large. Otherwise I couldn't care less if the drivers I download also support a TNT2.

[Flipside]

Mine worked fine, I thought they were crashing my comp, then I found out it was 24k of bad sectors on my hard drive, I'll miss that jpg LOL

[Carl]

interesting related sidenote: Sony Imageworks is using a new Nvidia gfx chip to render more realistic skin for the CGI stunt doubles in Spider-Man 2.

[Grey Wolf]

Probably some odd version of a Quadro, I suppose.

[karajorma]

It's called forceware cause the crap it probably installs forces you to get an ATI card

[kasperl]

* is happy for traiding is TNT2 for a Radeon 7000. *

[Fineus]

Mmm, I am beginning to get a desire for a Radeon of some kind. I just wish I had more money Ah well...

[vyper]

[01010]

Pff, I don't know why people always upgrade as soon as new drivers are released, IMO and from experience a new driver release is only worth downloading if you're having problems with the current revision.

Like they say "If it ain't broke, don't fix it".

[aldo_14]

Originally posted by 01010
Pff, I don't know why people always upgrade as soon as new drivers are released, IMO and from experience a new driver release is only worth downloading if you're having problems with the current revision.

Like they say "If it ain't broke, don't fix it".

Problem is, nVidia cards (FX) are broke - they've resorted to building in game specific optimisations into the drivers.......

[01010]

I thought ATI were just as bad for the optimizations? I remember reading a lot about this when the HL2 DX9 (acronym hell) benchmarks were first out.

Content with my Ti4200 for now though it's getting a little long in the tooth, I'm holding on upgrading though, I generally tend to try to upgrade once every two generations or so, but I may be tempted to pick a 9800 pro when the newest cards come out and the inevitable price drop occurs.

Kinda dodgy about getting an ATI though because I still hear people who have ****loads of problems with the drivers and stuff, more so than I'm comfortable with at the moment.

[Grey Wolf]

ATI tends to have the best hardware, Nvidia the best drivers. The NV40 is looking like it is a bit more advanced than the R420, though.

[01010]

Originally posted by Grey Wolf 2009
ATI tends to have the best hardware, Nvidia the best drivers. The NV40 is looking like it is a bit more advanced than the R420, though.

Which is exactly why I'm holding out, to my mind the NV30 was a stopgap, just getting something out the door to get at least a few sales before the real tech comes along, I've not been too quick to judge nVidia on their current iteration of cards quite simply because to me, they seem to be beefed up old tech, like 3Dfx were churning out with the Voodoo 5.

[Grey Wolf]

Nvidia seems to better with even numbers, too. GF2 was superior to GF, but GF3 lacked any real innovation over GF2. GF4 was superior to GF3, but the FX line lacked any real innovation over GF4.

The advantage of the NV40 over the R420 is mainly in the number of pipelines that it has. The NV40 has 16, as opposed to the R420's 12.

[01010]

Has there been any kind of information on release dates for either of the chipsets?

[Grey Wolf]

They were both rumoured to launch later this month at CeBit, but I read an article recently that seemed to suggest that NV40 may take a bit longer than that.

[01010]

What a suprise.

The sooner the better, I got plenty of cash available to buy a mid range card right now but I figure if I wait like three months theres gonna be a big price drop.

[Deathstorm V2]

All I can say is they worked for me.

All of a sudden, Chrome and X2 run beautifully on my GF4 MX440.  Before, they were both buggy as hell.

Wohoo.