[Zeronet]

Um, whats wrong with skating? I dress like skater punk/punk, like blink 182, but pennywise is my favourite band, along with others like nofx(seeing them in may ), lagwagon etc. To be honest, i haven't really see any of this supposed 'hip' punk stuff round here. Only reason for any of that, is thats what i like, its hardly trendy.

[Rictor]

Well, to each his own. You can listen to whatever kind of music you please. But what I don't like is the kids (at what age do you get to say "damn those kids today"?) think the world was invented for them. Right.

"The Clash? Pfff. They're not punk, where are their skateboards?"

And the fact that the underlying social message is completely lost on the new generation. Oooh, fart jokes and skating. As opposed to a social movement.

[Shrike]

Originally posted by Thorn
They dont seem to like packing crates though...(Shrike knows what I'm on about)

Start being more persuasive.

Originally posted by Kazan
goth = lame, cliche, etc

Yes.  I'm so sure you're the expert.  Let me bow down to your wealth of knowledge.  Oh woe, I must burn all my black clothes....

[pyro-manic]

I'm rather bored with punk music, to be honest. Yeah, I'll listen to it, but it's all got a bit sort of same-y, to be honest. I think the problem is that these bands all sound rather similar, both in terms of production and playing style. I find that when I'm listening to an album, separate songs start to merge into each other, and that means I'm losing interest. And that isn't good, cos I need to be interested in a song to listen to it properly.

Oh, and I find the whole "solos are ****" and shouting instead of singing thing that most punk bands have rather, uhh, bleh. I feel a bit let down by a band that have a frontman who trys to shred his vocal chords rather than get a tune out of them, and whose guitarist(s) are incapable of/uninterested in anything other than chugging through a powerchord sequence. Yes, there are exceptions, but they're in a minority.

My personal tastes are pretty eclectic. I listen to a load of different stuff, and if I hear it and I like it, I'll buy the CD. I'll never download music, except if I want to see what a band sounds like. If it's good, then I buy the record. If it's not, it gets deleted.

Like I said, I listen to loads of stuff. Some of my favourites:

The Wildhearts
Iron Maiden
Thin Lizzy
Jimmy Cliff
AudioSlave/RATM
Bill Frisell
Motorhead
The Clash
Massive Attack
Bob Marley and the Wailers
Jane's Addiction
Holst
Nightwish
Guns 'n' Roses
Spirit Caravan
Django Reinhardt (sp?)
Faith No More
Judas Priest
Metallica (Puppets, Justice and Black albums, Garage and S&M. The rest falls between not bad and ick...)
Stravinsky
Primal Fear
Bad Religion
and many more...

I'm afraid I HATE grunge and most 90s "alt" music, purely because it's bloody depressing. I don't want or need to listen to Trent Reznor or Kurt f***ing Cobain bleat about how ****e things are/were in their oh-so-difficult lives. I can understand the early 90s backlash against the whole hair metal scene (Europe, Poison etc) because it had become so poppy (much like "punk" and "nu-metal" in recent years), but I have to say that I'd much rather listen to Motley Crue than Nirvana.

So there.

[beatspete]

Originally posted by Zeronet
Um, whats wrong with skating?

Nothing, I have a few BMX/skater friends, but its when 14 year olds do it. You get a lot of little kids with a hell of an attitude problem.

[Nico]

Punk? Hell, around here, there's been that stupid grunge thing going on for years now. Well, the rampant addiction to joints in the viscinity helps it, I suppose.

[mikhael]

Originally posted by Shrike
Yes.  I'm so sure you're the expert.  Let me bow down to your wealth of knowledge.  Oh woe, I must burn all my black clothes....

*hands Shrike a staple gun*

Don't forget to staple your hand to your forehead. You can't "oh woe!" without a hand stapled to your forehead.

Originally posted by beatspete

Do you live in a dark basement with just a computer or something?.
Half of a concert is the audience. Where's the amtosphere then? Can you imagine wathcing a sports match in a stadium by yourself?
Music is meant to be seen live. Go see the world.

Silly child. I live in an apartment with my wife and a bunch of computers and way too much music.

What you fail to understand is that I really do hate the sort of people that go out and gather in large groups to show how much they all think alike and do the same things and love the same band and wear the same clothes. People like that (often called 'fans', short for 'fanatic') are deeply scary people who can't manage to enjoy something without seeking the approval of other people to prop up their self esteem.

No thanks.

Besides: do you know how how many criminals work concerts and the like? Bugger that. I can sit in a nice dark room with my speakers cranked and close my eyes and just absorb the music without all the annoying wankers who feel the need to bounce around like spastic crackheads and "sing" along. I want to hear the band thanks, not your lameass caterwauling. I also don't want to put up with your stench, or the stench of your alcohol, drugs or cigarettes. I don't want to deal with your basic failure to understand that I require personal space. I don't want to see you, hear you, deal with you or be near you. You are not my wife. You are not my friend. You are not my family. Why the **** would I want you near me?

Concerts are for idiots with too much money, too much time, and who like the company of that most annoying segment of society: fans.

Oh, and I don't go to sporting events. I play the sport or I don't. I don't watch it and neither should you. If your existence is so pathetic that you have to live vicariously through someone who plays a game for a living, you've got self esteem issues and need to shoot yourself. Like now.

In case you hadn't gathered: I don't like the vast unwashed mass of humanity being near me. I'm asocial. I'm damned near misanthropic. Any other questions?

[redsniper]

I like ZZ TOP
*quietly leaves thread*

[Krackers87]

Dude, i dont wear clothes because im a certain type of person, i wear clothes because I like them, not somebody else or whatever.

I wear large baggy shirts nd large baggy jeans and listen to rock and techno, but if i listned to country and pop, it shouldnt matter at all.

I think the people who complain about what people wear because it doesent fit with whatever clique theyre part of or what music they listen to, are MORE affected by whats popular and what isnt than those who wear the clothing.

Originally posted by mikhael
I don't do 'live', unless the band comes to my house and puts on a concert for me in my living room.

I have serious problems with concerts.

I love concerts, im going to a crystal method concert in about a week.

[Shrike]

Originally posted by mikhael
*hands Shrike a staple gun*

Don't forget to staple your hand to your forehead. You can't "oh woe!" without a hand stapled to your forehead.

Ah yes, I forgot that detail.  Oh well, must feed the stereotype...

[Thorn]

Originally posted by Shrike
Start being more persuasive.

No.. I'd rather they stay here
Come and get one yourself....

[Nico]

Originally posted by redsniper

I like ZZ TOP
*quietly leaves thread*

So do I.

And I've never been at a concert, I prefer a calm room, I let that to my friends.
I have a friend who's on the Paris Live ( don't know the name, don't give a damn ) DVD of muse. You can see him a lot on that DVD. He's all crazy about that. He doesn't realize that him, his brother, etc, listened to that **** so much that I'm now deeply sick by just listening to muse again. Always the same ****, muse.

[01010]

Muse suck in a way, but are pretty good live.

Mik I can understand you disliking the great unwashed masses, I suffer the same problems but by seeing a band live your giving more to the band that buying a CD, also, music was meant to be seen live.

I mean it's about the energy (for me at least) and not just the musicmanship and I think it's amazing when your in a hall full of people all screaming the lyrics to a song that they love and touches them, y'know?

[Thorn]

I prefer seeing bands live in smaller settings. Bars, coffee shops, clubs. It just seems more personal, and the bands that would play places like this arent likely to attract masses of screaming people.

[Lonestar]

Originally posted by Janos


I hope you are kidding. Seriously. It's MUSIC[/u], its supposed to provoke emotions. I like some new musical styles and praise them. But if I hate it and them, I do not treat them anyhow specially. Its just music which sucks, n/m whether it "adds to genre" or not.

Because if we follow that attitude, everyone should like anything anyone ever plays. I go and play this magnificent piece of art and everyone should be like oh, and we all end up as Borgs with similar musical tastes.

And I don't know if Limp Bizkit's latest abominations can credit as "pioneering a new sound".

/end rant

By your astout logic, everything must always be perfect then?

Something sucking is part of life, and you must accept that. If you cant accept sucky music, dont listen to it. Instead your trying to justify hating it, when in fact it contributes to the entire scene.

Your logic is flawed to say the least.

[01010]

Originally posted by Thorn
I prefer seeing bands live in smaller settings. Bars, coffee shops, clubs. It just seems more personal, and the bands that would play places like this arent likely to attract masses of screaming people.

Totally totally agree, the intimacy is always the best draw to a smaller venue for me, I love it.

Though you can't do wrong with a damn huge festival crowd just for the atmosphere.

[mikhael]

Originally posted by 01010
Muse suck in a way, but are pretty good live.

Mik I can understand you disliking the great unwashed masses, I suffer the same problems but by seeing a band live your giving more to the band that buying a CD, also, music was meant to be seen live.

I mean it's about the energy (for me at least) and not just the musicmanship and I think it's amazing when your in a hall full of people all screaming the lyrics to a song that they love and touches them, y'know?

No, music is meant to be enjoyed however you enjoy it best. Live is pointless. IF you like it live, that's great. More power to you. I, on the other hand, prefer a CD or an MP3 in the comfort of my own home, or from wherever I happen to be with my Archos. Period. There's really no discussion here: live music has too me disadvantages for me to even consider it. Its really ****ing annoying to hear a room full of people trying to sing the lyrics of a song I love and touches me, y' know? I'm not paying to a bunch of assholes who seem to have forgotten that I'm paying to listen to the band, not them. Thanks, but no thanks.

If a band wants more of my money than it gets from a CD sale, then the band needs to sell me MP3s of its music directly. I'll pay $1 or $2 per song directly to the artist. No problem.

[01010]

Originally posted by mikhael


No, music is meant to be enjoyed however you enjoy it best. Live is pointless. IF you like it live, that's great. More power to you. I, on the other hand, prefer a CD or an MP3 in the comfort of my own home, or from wherever I happen to be with my Archos. Period. There's really no discussion here: live music has too me disadvantages for me to even consider it. Its really ****ing annoying to hear a room full of people trying to sing the lyrics of a song I love and touches me, y' know? I'm not paying to a bunch of assholes who seem to have forgotten that I'm paying to listen to the band, not them. Thanks, but no thanks.

If a band wants more of my money than it gets from a CD sale, then the band needs to sell me MP3s of its music directly. I'll pay $1 or $2 per song directly to the artist. No problem.

I don't think all bands would appreciate it however, if everyone was mute and still, even if they were appreciating the music. It's all personal preference like you say however and if that's the way you enjoy the music best then so be it. I like both but treat them as two different things really, I enjoy the atmosphere of a live gig despite the downsides of some of the morons you occasionally get but then again nothing much for me beats listening to music through my headphones in the dark.

[mikhael]

See, as far as I'm concerned a live concert is nothing but down sides. The sound quality is abominable, there are other people there, and it costs too damned much. I'm not really concerned with what the band appreciates though. They can have my money or not. If they want it, they get it on the terms I prefer.

[Zeronet]

Yeah well,  i like pitting and seeing them live, its a experiance. Just one of those things i guess.