[aldo_14]

I reckon smoking is just rude, anyways.  i mean, if you want to smoke - fair enough - but why should I have to inhale it?

simple as that.........

[kasperl]

i agree on the most part, Flip, but smoking should be banned in all area's were someone in that area could object. meaning most workplaces, schools and bars.

and it weren't my friends, it were the payed people from the local social workgroup, i was maintaining a 'net cafe, as a volunteer.

[01010]

Originally posted by aldo_14
I reckon smoking is just rude, anyways.  i mean, if you want to smoke - fair enough - but why should I have to inhale it?

simple as that.........

Which is fair enough but I hate stupid ****s who sit in the smoking section of a pub and then do that pathetic ****ing little *eh eh* cough that they do when someone lights a fag.

[kasperl]

sitting in the smoking section is ones own choice, and yeah, they should shut the **** up.

[kasperl]

Originally posted by 01010


Then you should see a doctor because I can sit in a small room with three or four smokers for hours and come out fine (apart from the smell).

ugh.
I am currently seeing more doctors then i would like. Mainly lung issues, that's what they expect is causing this ****. Anyway, the smell ain't even the worse. Cigarettes are terrible, Cigars are worse, but i quite like the smell of a pipe.

[Flipside]

Originally posted by 01010


Which is fair enough but I hate stupid ****s who sit in the smoking section of a pub and then do that pathetic ****ing little *eh eh* cough that they do when someone lights a fag.

'Nasty cough you got there mate, funny that, I been smoking for years and haven't got a cough like that '

[Petrarch of the VBB]

Agreed. Fags and cigars smell awful, but pipe smoke is quite pleasant.
I suppose that's mainly because my dad used to smoke a pipe, so I grew up with the smell of it.

[01010]

Originally posted by Flipside


'Nasty cough you got there mate, funny that, I been smoking for years and haven't got a cough like that '

I don't even smoke (anything legal anyway ) and it gets right on my tits.

[Rictor]

I've been living with two smokers (parents) since I was born, and I've never had so much as a single illness or anything at all related to smoking. Maybe its just a habit, but I don't even notice when someone is smoking unless I'm literally a foot away from their mouth. See, part of the reason that I am not going to smoke, ever, is cause my parents both do and I get to see, or rather hear, the terrible morning coughing. That, and the fact that smoking more or less did my grandfather in.

However, I think there is a big consipracy in soceity to make smoking not illegal, but so inconvenient that people just won't do it anymore. Non-smokers who constantly complain really get on my nerves. Not anyoe here in specific, just people in general. Its just smoke, its won't kill you if you inhale it for a few hours or so. Even if I lifelong smoker were to quit, their lungs would be almost back to normal in a few months or years. So, unless you are constantly exposed to smoke, then its not going to harm you. To me, it just as simple as putting a smoking section in every restaurant and basically ever public space. If you want to smoke, go to the smoking section. If not, you go to the non-smoking section. Simple.

[01010]

Couldn't have put it better myself Rictor. In fact, even the family history is scarily close to mine.

[Kazan]

Flipside: as smell WILL kill you if that smell is the smell of something toxic

Let this be known: none of my real life friends smoke - if they did they wouldn't be my friend!

The very slightest bit of cigarette smoke in the air makes make lungs and throat hurt and it hard for me to breath - and I do not have asthma [sp?].

and my father was a smoker - i didn't notice it until i got until high school, got into athletics and the habit of locking myself in the computer room to stay away from the smell.  Also my mum and i finally got it so we would kick him outside when he wanted to smoke.  The healither/better in shape I got the more obvious it became and the easier it was to smell.  You only fail to smell it if your senses have been deadend to it.  

I gaurantee you have lung damage - you couldn't tell because the process of damage is gradual, to slow to be perceptable.

Saying "It's just smoke" is kinda like saying "it's just ricin" - it's just poisoning and is completely and totally unwelcome, but is being forced upon you by other people around you that in some situations you may not be able to get away from.  

PS: saying "unless you are constantly exposed to smoke, then its not going to harm you" is very incorrect.  Every single particle harms you, not perceptively to you, but the effects are CUMULATIVE - and any single particle has the ability to cause that "last bit of damage"


As for your proposal of a "smoking section" - they have to have completely seperate HVAC and air circulation systems otherwise the non-smokers will be able to tell.

[Rictor]

Aw jeez. Fine, then every single time you take a step, you are getting slightly shorter. So watch it, you don't want to end up a midget. Marathon runners have been known to shrink percepitbly from running the 23 (I think) kilometers, you should be very careful not to take unnecessary steps. I mean it, its for your own good.

Yes, the crap in cigarettes is more or less poison. However, if you are not constantly exposed to smoke, I mean like every day for a significant period of time, nothing is going to happen to you. Unless of course you have some serious lung condition, then you have a right to complain.

Its like those people who count, and I mean literally count, their calories. So, tuna for breakfast, an organge for lunch, and some salad for dinner...OH NO, I've exceeded my daily calorie budget by 17 whole calories? Oh God, I feel fat already. I'll be socially ostracized! I'll never be able to wear shorts again, if I can even fit in them anymore. I'm so fat! Damn you 17 calories, DAMN YOU TO HELL!!!

**** man, live life. Living with the smoke from my parents, thats probably a year or two off my life right there. But really, who cares. You die when you die, and unless you do whatever the hell you want in the meantime, you might as well be dead right now. I'de hate to be your dad. He's the reason you're alive, and you kick him out of his own house to go smoke outside. :D

Alright, I'll stop preaching now.

[Ace]

Originally posted by Rictor
Aw jeez. Fine, then every single time you take a step, you are getting slightly shorter. So watch it, you don't want to end up a midget. Marathon runners have been known to shrink percepitbly from running the 23 (I think) kilometers, you should be very careful not to take unnecessary steps. I mean it, its for your own good.

Actually that's a good thing since your body's energy requirements would be less and you don't need to eat as much food. That way there's more resources for everyone!

RUN COMRADES! RUN FOR THE PEOPLE'S STATE! RUN!

[Kazan]

if you have to go into public you are exposed EVERY DAY - and the walking argument = pathetic, you know you're taller in the morning then at night? yes gravity does that, and it gets undone when you lay down and sleep.


Trying to make analogy to the calorie counters is yet another very poor analogy - 17 calories isn't going to do jack**** - 17 particles of a carcinogen CAN


I am LIVING LIFE, I want to LIVE MY LIFE AS LONG AS POSSIBLE and HEALTHY