[aldo_14]

Originally posted by Nico


Woomeister told me that one 2048*2048 map runs better than two or three smaller maps. Anyway, nothing prevents the map to be scaled down if there's a performance hit.

Yeah...just sounds big to me.  most of the time, I find that fine details (i.e. at hi-res) become invisible at any reasonable distance. (although it doesn;t look a problem on the 'zec), so I switched down for a long time.  I've only moved back because I'm going to do my capships as properly mapped (i.e. non tiled texture), and want the practice with larger maps.

[Nico]

Well, you might have noticed ( ) I'm a strut line freak, so large maps help a lot with that
And I decided some time ago to do the same as you: not gonna use tiled maps anymore, even for very large capships. Even if that means I have to use 3 or 4 2048*2048 maps, I think the visual gain would be well worth it. I've grown to hate tiled maps, they're usually ugly, and have to follow the polygons, which is a severe design constraint.

[KARMA]

well, I used about a single 2048 map for my corellian corvette, so it sound a bit too much for a fighter for me too, btw it's up to you.

anyway, it's surely very nice, althought it is a bit too cartoonist (so far) for my tastes: I suppose you are making it this way because you want to use the cellshadings? (haven't read all the thread)

aldo, what's the way you found for the corroded textures? I'm always interested in those things:)

[Gank]

2048*2048 map seems excessive, especially with so little detail in it.

[Bobboau]

Originally posted by Nico


... one 2048*2048 map runs better than two or three smaller maps. Anyway, nothing prevents the map to be scaled down if there's a performance hit.

this is true

I'm hopeing after 3.6 we can get a better material system, something that would enable you to do multi-textureing (ie have a tiled texture bended over a mapped texture) as well as more controle over defuse light specular light and glow mapping (enableing you to link multible glow maps to diferent ship variables, like thrust, or weapons fireing, or sheild streignth)

[adwight]

Watch out shivans, Alpha 1 has a new toy to play with.

[StratComm]

Originally posted by Bobboau
...glow mapping (enableing you to link multible glow maps to diferent ship variables, like thrust, or weapons fireing, or sheild streignth)

This I want to see.  Way, way too many ideas on this one to be healthy

[galonrever]

My god.......that is easily the COOLEST fighter i have ever seen!!!
She reminds me of a dolphin...in a good way. Bet she can give any shark a run for her money!!!  Nice work, when can we see her in action???

[Nico]

when it's done.

[Nico]

Originally posted by Gank
2048*2048 map seems excessive, especially with so little detail in it.

Ok, another one wanna tell me he thinks 2048*2048 maps seem big to him? Coz I just love repeating myself.
Now I know what's with all this monkey stuff on the net .

[KARMA]

Originally posted by Bobboau


this is true

I'm hopeing after 3.6 we can get a better material system, something that would enable you to do multi-textureing (ie have a tiled texture bended over a mapped texture)

you mean for example a tiled texture and a non tiled decal texture for scratches, dust, rust etc etc?
sounds nice

[Setekh]

Holy smoke. Next few updates I'll probably be popping her in the highlights, Venom.

[Nico]

I hope

[aldo_14]

Originally posted by KARMA

aldo, what's the way you found for the corroded textures? I'm always interested in those things:)

Well - and this is for subtle denting more than anything else - it's actually really simple.  Just a white spraypaintbrush (with the non-radial brush - the one with gaps, either the round one or the 'slash' one) with 10 -20% opacity,  with a (same opacity, brush) black brush over the top and very slightly offset..... it works surprisngly well as just a general noise-type texture, plus it's also of use when I do shading, as it roughens up the edges of shadows, burns, etc.

Can probably also add to the effect by varying the specular map appropriately - i.e. bare shiny metalwork - although I've yet to try that.

I'll post a piccy when I get home, show what I mean.

[Setekh]

Originally posted by Nico
I hope

You hope for more updates or for the highlight?

[Nico]

the highlights updates are up to me

[KARMA]

Originally posted by aldo_14


Well - and this is for subtle denting more than anything else - it's actually really simple.  Just a white spraypaintbrush (with the non-radial brush - the one with gaps, either the round one or the 'slash' one) with 10 -20% opacity,  with a (same opacity, brush) black brush over the top and very slightly offset..... it works surprisngly well as just a general noise-type texture, plus it's also of use when I do shading, as it roughens up the edges of shadows, burns, etc.

Can probably also add to the effect by varying the specular map appropriately - i.e. bare shiny metalwork - although I've yet to try that.

I'll post a piccy when I get home, show what I mean.

ahh ok, I think you mean something like what I did in some points of this textures, am I right?

that's a bit old texture btw, now I do things with a little different style, btw I use a lot the the layer masks and the contrast between black and white brushes to make realistic decals, and it works very well for me too


nico: if you are working for cell shading...don't you mind making a textures version for standard HTL? it will make your ship easyer to be used, and I'm really curious about how it'd look

[Nico]

I'm not doing it for cell shading, but it will be easy to do a map for that mode if needed.

[aldo_14]

Originally posted by KARMA


ahh ok, I think you mean something like what I did in some points of this textures, am I right?

that's a bit old texture btw, now I do things with a little different style, btw I use a lot the the layer masks and the contrast between black and white brushes to make realistic decals, and it works very well for me too

Yes...well, at lower res.  Also worjks surprisingly well for rust.  Albeit I don't use layers because It's too much of a pain to preview them on the model.

[Nico]

you're using max, right, you can use PSD files as maps, with max