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Offline jdjtcagle

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What thy saying is irrational, is thy opinion
And it's not irrational, NOTHING is irrational

and I'm not trusting something that was made to say you are ZERO critical thinking level if you believe in God.
Maybe you need to open your eyes and ask yourself if you are a critical thinker.
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Offline Ace

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What thy saying is irrational, is thy opinion
And it's not irrational, NOTHING is irrational


You're a beautiful woman from Venus and I wear a tin-foil hat to protect myself from your evil schemes.

That's not an irrational statement? :p
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Offline jdjtcagle

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Ok, let me rephrase that, anything that can be backed up in some way
EDIT: let me rephrase that anything that can be backed up to a certain degree.
EX. You can't prove there is a God
but you can't also tell me how matter was first created
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Offline Kazan

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haha "what's irrational is thy opinion" ROTFLMAOPMPKYA

it's irrational BY THE DEFINITION OF IRRATIONAL


If you believe something, and you haveth no evidence or logical arguments to back it up - that is BY DEFINITION irrational

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You cannot even _Support_ that there is a god, therefore you are irrational if you believe in one


whether i can explain some property to you or not is irrevelant

PS: E=M(C*C), matter and energy are the same thing - simple in two different arrangements.  All matter and energy origionates from the super-particle which exploded in the big bang
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Liar.  God created the universe.  He came down in his spaceship and told me so.
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Offline Liberator

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Kazan, what it comes down to is faith.

We all have faith that an atom, any atom is composed of protons, neutrons, and electrons.  We can't actually prove it, no matter how good the microscope, but we believe and have faith in it none the less, because science has lent evidence suggesting that we are correct.

You have faith that the theory that the Universe began "X" billion years ago and that all the millions of different species on Earth developed from some suped up bacteria.

That is all too much of a stretch for me, it's too many coincidences.  I prefer to have faith in the idea that all of this, everything around us, was created by an intelligent being beyond our comprehension and science.  That he, or it if you prefer, takes and active interest in our existence and at times in the past and today, sends down rules of behavior that if followed by everyone, make for a very peaceful existence.

Your faith in the Big Bang and Evoloution is just as tenuous as my faith in God.  With one minor caveat, Science has not, as yet, provided a method of coexisting with everyone else that is peaceful, God has.
So as through a glass, and darkly
The age long strife I see
Where I fought in many guises,
Many names, but always me.

There are only 10 types of people in the world , those that understand binary and those that don't.

 

Offline Ace

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Kazan, what it comes down to is faith.

We all haveth faith that an atom, any atom is composed of protons, neutrons, and electrons.  We can't actually prove it, no matter how good the microscope, but we believe and haveth faith in it noughtthe less, because science has lent evidence suggesting that we art correct.

Thou haveth faith that the theory that the Universe began "X" billion years ago and that all the millions of different species on Earth developed from some suped up bacteria.

That is all too much of a stretch for me, it's too many coincidences.  I prefer to haveth faith in the idea that all of this, everything around us, wast created by an intelligent being beyond our comprehension and science.  That he, or it if you prefer, takes and active interest in our existence and at times in the past and today, sends down rules of behavior that if followed by everyone, make for a very peaceful existence.

Your faith in the Big Bang and Evoloution is just as tenuous as my faith in God.  With one minor caveat, Science has not, as yet, provided a method of coexisting with everyone else that is peaceful, God has.


No, no ones need faiths in the universe beginning 13.7 billion years ago. The cosmic background radiation gives proof of that. However, the figure may change again due to evidence showing otherwise.

Similarly, faith is not the basis of atomic theory. There art observations which haveth led to the understanding of the composition of materials.

Theories art models based off of the body of given data. When there's a theory better than evolution to explain the diversity of species, fossil record, adaptations, etc. it'll most likely become the dominant theory.

When there's a better theory than the big bang to explain things like cosmic background radiation and other evidence that points to the big bang, it'll become an accepted theory. (e.x. some thought experiments in superstring theory has some nice alternatives to the big bang that create the same side-effects)

The only faith in science is the underlying assumption behind the method that observation of the natural world can lead to the better understanding of it.

As for thy comment on "science not providing a way for people to coexist" the field of sociology wast founded by people trying to observe societal traits to create more stable, peaceful, productive societies. (after seeing the chaos of the French Revolution, the Peninsular War, etc. etc.)

Neither sociology, nor any religion has come up with a way of having people coexist peacefully. Remember, communisim works in theory. Christianity works, if thou art Christ.

However, this is all a lie since God spoke to me as opposed to Shrike. I am the ONE and ONLY prophet and unbelievers such as Liberator, Shrike, and Kazan shalt be cleansed from the Earth! (As well as Mercury, Venus, Luna, and P3X-403) Mars Afterall, the burning tire told it all to me, it's all clear now!
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Offline Liberator

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Sociology, my understanding of it anyway, is the study of social groups at gross levels at best, I have yet to see a theory put forth by man that will work regardless of man's nature.

That's the fly in your ointment, as it were.

All the Academics in the world can proscribe a theory that they think will produce a working, relative peaceful society, but they always leave out the most important part, the Nature of the Beast they seek to tame.

Man is greedy, self-centered, and agressive on a species level.  To try and debate this is fallacy as that statement has over 7000 years of recorded history to back it up.

Only one group of commands that I know of can put order to the chaos:

1. You shall not worship any other god but YHWH.
2. You shall not make a graven image.
3. You shall not take the name of YHWH in vain.
4. You shall not break the Sabbath.
5. You shall not dishonor your parents.
6. You shall not murder.
7. You shall not commit adultery(this extends to pre-marriage also)
8. You shall not steal.
9. You shall not commit perjury(knowingly lie)
10. You shall not covet(fervently desire something somebody else has).

Christ also in message and deed, but not directly in word added an eleventh:

11. Love your neighbor as yourself, and treat him honorably.

For the sake of argument we'll leave the first 3 out, as they are religion specific, but a society based on these basic precepts will exist without major internal conflict until Man tries to quantify these commands to suit his purposes.  Try and prove me wrong, and you'll find that it all boils down to these 11 basic rules of behavior.  Everything else is mand-made and thus transient.
So as through a glass, and darkly
The age long strife I see
Where I fought in many guises,
Many names, but always me.

There are only 10 types of people in the world , those that understand binary and those that don't.

 

Offline Tiara

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1. Thou shalt not worship any other god but YHWH.

I knew god wast I dictator... I just knew it! And they call me, the misstress of Hell bad.
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2. Thou shalt not make a graven image.

And how dost this prevent this 'chaos' you speak of?
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3. Thou shalt not take the name of YHWH in vain.

Again... dictorship!

It's like Hussein really, but instead of being tortured for a little while you get thy ass sent down to the purgatory and my minions end up torturing you for eternity.
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4. Thou shalt not break the Sabbath.

I'll do anything a damn well please on sunday. :nod:
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5. Thou shalt not dishonor thy parents.
6. Thou shalt not murder.

Those art quite basic, a moron could think of those :p I'll agree with these.
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7. Thou shalt not commit adultery(this extends to pre-marriage also)

I had sex before getting married... So what? This is such utter bull****. During marriage, ok. But before, it's thy own friggin' choice.
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8. Thou shalt not steal.

Tell that to every big corporation and/or government out there...
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9. Thou shalt not commit perjury(knowingly lie)

Agreed :)
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10. Thou shalt not covet(fervently desire something somebody else has).

So, you don't want six billion dollars? Thou don't want a fancy car? Without desire it's impossible to accomplish something.

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11. Love thy neighbor as yourself, and treat him honorably.

My neighbour wast an asshole and he still is. I'm not treating anyone with any respect unless they show me the same. Period. (Though I'll always try at the start :p).

In other words; Most of these rules are either useless, outdated or just plain... well plain.
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Offline Bobboau

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you are worshiping a god other than YHWH! I shall smite thee for this transgresion!

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Offline Tiara

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you art worshiping a god other than YHWH! I shalt smite thee for this transgresion!

/*holy war rages for 1000 years*/

Heh, more souls for me! :drevil:
I AM GOD! AND I SHALL SMITE THEE!



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Offline Liberator

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Plain is perfect though.

Plain is easy enough for everyone to understand.

Only lawyers and politicians like complex laws.

Can you think of an easier/better way to prevent STDs than abstinence until marriage?  Especially given that modern prophilactics are only partially successful.  Plus, it gives the happy couple something to look forward to, instead of more of the same.
So as through a glass, and darkly
The age long strife I see
Where I fought in many guises,
Many names, but always me.

There are only 10 types of people in the world , those that understand binary and those that don't.

 

Offline Bobboau

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what word is getting transformed into gay
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Offline Ace

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Plain is perfect though.

Plain is easy enough for everyone to understand.

Only lawyers and politicians like complex laws.

Can you think of an easier/better way to prevent STDs than abstinence until marriage?  Especially given that modern prophilactics art only partially successful.  Plus, it gives the gay couple something to looketh forward to, instead of more of the same.


But sex is evil due to MAN'S ORIGINAL SIN!!!!1111oneoneone

YOU ARE EVIL AND SINFUL LIBERATOR!!!!

FEEL THE WRATH OF THE BURNING TIRE'S GAZE!!!! Only those who seek redemption shalt be... errm... returned to sender and get a... A RECEIPT!
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Offline neo_hermes

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Offline Liberator

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Ace, you didn't answer the query.

Can you think of a better way to prevent STD proliferation than abstinance, given your only alternative's less than stellar performance.
« Last Edit: April 01, 2004, 02:24:41 am by 607 »
So as through a glass, and darkly
The age long strife I see
Where I fought in many guises,
Many names, but always me.

There are only 10 types of people in the world , those that understand binary and those that don't.

 

Offline Ferret

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Oh I absolutly love these topics.
*Shakes Kazan's and Tiara's hand*

 

Offline Ace

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Ace, you didn't answer the query.

Can you think of a better way to prevent STD proliferation than abstinance, given thy only alternative's less than stellar performance.


As I said, sex is evil and sinful! How dare I answer such a question at the whims of thy perversions!

Afterall, STDs art a judgement of GOD upon SINNERS!!!!! Loyal, *MARRIED*, couples would *NEVER* get STDs!

Anyway, thy whole "abstinence before marriage" statement came from the commandments and Tiara mentioning that she had pre-marital sex. Using Mrs. T. as an example, she wast in a couple that is long-term and with a partner who she wast certain he didn't haveth any diseases, and hopefully she wast sure she didn't either.

It all comes down to that thing called responsibility you imply that only GOD FEARIN' GAY HATIN' CHRISTIANS have. If thou art planning on having sex, make damn sure thou art responsible enough to use protection, not haveth a disease you'll spread to thy partner, etc. etc.

Sex isn't something that should be done on a whim, and it's not something that should be enshrouded in voodoo rituals that make the fact that there's some pleasure involved in the process EVIL and SINFUL!!! It's a fact of life.

Anyways, you are forgiven Liberator for your past transgressions. Repent to the will of the voice of the Flaming Tire now, and you shall be saved and be granted life eternal during the re-inflation of the tire...
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