[Fineus]

MMm, admitedly my highest was medium. I don't like to lose

[Turnsky]

you know, i really should reinstall D1 again
*has gotten free from a PCGAMER Disk*

[Woolie Wool]

Originally posted by Nico
The thief bot. A darn thing that hunts you down ( Now THAT is AI ) through the whole level, slips behind you, and steals a handfull of your equipement. Which can be very annoying if it's the energy to shield converter, for exemple

I've heard that if you're using the God Mode cheat, it will take that too.

[ChronoReverse]

Actually, there's no god-mode per se, rather, you just get invulnerability.  But since it's an "item" the thief bot can steal it (luckily it doesn't become invulnerable itself).

I hate the thiefbot, it kept me looking over my shoulder all the time ready to it the proximity bomb button.  It's so annoying when you're moving along, thinking you're so cool with the fusion cannon and gauss cannons fully loaded and ready to bear and then it goes and steals them and you find youself using the spreadfire eating its exhaust.

It was always so satisfying to kill that thing.

[Bobboau]

and it had that creepy hum sound
and for a garbege scow the thing was damn manuverable

[Nico]

It was the funniest foe, tho, never any other game made me run after an enemy like that. Some awesome chases

[Turnsky]

i shoulda gotten descent 3 when i had the chance, i missed out on so much

[Rake]

Originally posted by ChronoReverse
You know, the people who are saying they can beat the Level 7 D1 boss easily... what difficulty level is this?

*has yet to beat the game on anything other than Rookie and Trainee

Insane, of course. It's not hard... Smart missiles are slow, and so are their projectiles. Just duck inside the center tower deal each time and you'll be fine.

The real trick is killing all of his support bots as well, without losing a single shield point.

[Kazan]

Originally posted by ARothers


No, its the first game that ever came out on PC and the the first 3D space opera and was first released on BBC microcomputer in 1990.  Basically, if there wasn't an Elite, there wouldn't be a FreeSpace 2.  Try this: www.iancgbell.clara.net

more accurately: if there wasn't Wing commander there wouldn'y by X-wing, or FreeSpace 2, or Starlancer, or Free Lancer, etc

[Nico]

yeah, like if there wasn't any of those game, nobody would have thought of "hey, would be cool to fly spaceships like in starwars"

[Kazan]

Nico: Wrong, it was the success of Wing Commander 1 that launched the genre to the forefront for nearly a decade

[mikhael]

Kaz is right Venom. Sure, people might have wondered what it would be like to fly around like in Star Wars. The thing is, Wing Commander did two very important things, and did them very successfully. First, it showed that computers were capable of being full fledged story telling machine and pulling the player into that story. Second, it showed that space combat can be a compelling backdrop upon which to hang a complex interactive story (not a chain of events, a plotted story). Without Wing Commander's success, the genre would not have taken off like it did. Lucasarts wouldn't have gone out on a limb with Xwing.

As for Descent: This game is hard as hell! You gotta really adjust your brain to the controls big time. I had to ditch the analog throttle and just go with forward/reverse slides. I also had to seperate the 'roll' keys off by themselves so I wouldn't accidently hit them. Its kinda hard to get used to the movement and combat with more than four 'bots is tough. I suppose I'll get used to it, though. I'm not sure how much I like it yet, but I'll at least give first several levels a try.

I swear, I spent ten minutes tweaking the controls for every minute I played the game.

[Bobboau]

Originally posted by mikhael
I swear, I spent ten minutes tweaking the controls for every minute I played the game.

Originally posted by Bobboau
yup, that's Descent's trademark, controles so complex it takes longer to set up your stick than it does to play the first level (literaly)

[mikhael]

Indeed, you did warn me.

[Bobboau]

you know I played that game with just the keyboard (D2), forward thrust was num_5 up,down,left,right were on the num pad, I used the directional (arrows) keys for slideing, pad_enter was reverse, and pad_del for bomb dropping, took me two months to get that down.

[Nico]

Originally posted by Kazan
Nico: Wrong, it was the success of Wing Commander 1 that launched the genre to the forefront for nearly a decade

I didn't say it wasn't the case, I said that even if WC never existed, there would still be space sims. As was said before, Elite came first, for exemple, not WC ( Elite, 1986, WC, 1990 ). One year after WC2 ( 1991 ) , we got Epic ( 1992 - I can't believe nobody remembers that one, it was in full 3D, had a cool plot, and even had ground missions ), but maybe people remember its sequel, Inferno? I dunno how it was in your countries, but both were really hyped down there, I just can't figure out how they got forgotten like that
But mainly, there was that one game I can't remember the name to save my life ( very frustrating ), it was at about the same time, it had cool "Starship Troopers like" cutscenes ( TV news flash ), a cool plot, etc. But I can't find it back, hargh.

As for Descent, I played both 1 and 2 with keyboard only, started 3 with joystick but went back to keyboard+mouse
used tab for primary, q for secondary, z and s for pitch up down, and about everything else was on the num pad. worked very well