[karajorma]

http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/6/36804.html

What's next? Jailing suicidal people for attempted murder?

There must have been someone else involved cause otherwise this is definately one of the most stupid things I've heard this week

[aldo_14]

Well, to be fair, you wouldn;t exactly want to encourage it, would you?

[kasperl]

no, but jailing her for posting her own nude self on the web?

[karajorma]

I wouldn't but I think having a chat with her parents is more the way to go on this one.

[aldo_14]

Well, methinks this part

The unnamed teenager is accused of sending photos of herself "in various states of undress and performing a variety of sexual acts" to people she met in online chat rooms, AP reports.

was the main one..... I think it's hard to say... i mean, there's definately a substantial arse-kicking deserved here anyways.  Jail...it's hard to say.  On the one hand, if she was an adult forcing a 15-year old into it, then there'd be no doubt.  On the other hand, it was consentual (as far as I can tell from the report)..... I think the reason for the heavy handed treatment is because it could encourage others to do similar stuff.  And the last thing we nade is under age porn, consensual or not.

[an0n]

I'd be jailed if I posted naked pictures of myself on the net.

My nakedness is considered an atrocity by both the UN and the Axis of Terror.

[aldo_14]

Originally posted by an0n
I'd be jailed if I posted naked pictures of myself on the net.

My nakedness is considered an atrocity by both the UN and the Axis of Terror.

Well, yeah - but you're existence was outlawed under Resolution 667 anyways.

[Rictor]

Your body; do what you want with it. It would make sense to punish those who she was sending the pics to, but then again it was consentual....

I don't see the logic in punishing her though. Crazy Yanks....

[Tiara]

So, their charging a child with childpornography?

[Lonestar]

Originally posted by karajorma
http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/6/36804.html

What's next? Jailing suicidal people for attempted murder?

There must have been someone else involved cause otherwise this is definately one of the most stupid things I've heard this week

People are losing their rights very quickly it seems. Even though its illegal for a minor to show her nude body, how can you punish her for doing it?

[Turnsky]

Originally posted by Tiara
So, their charging a child with childpornography?

sounds like old british law...
they used to hang people for attempted suicide.

[an0n]

Originally posted by aldo_14
Well, yeah - but you're existence was outlawed under Resolution 667 anyways.

The final ultimatum to Iraq before the First Gulf War?

[Fineus]

I suppose it's rather hard to prevent child pronography when children are allowed to post images of themselves in compromising positions on the net when they aren't yet old enough to understand the dangers of what they're doing.

While of course child porn fans are disgusting and shouldn't be allowed to do what they do - you can also help to attack that angle by preventing children from doing something so stupid as what she did. Do you let your daughter wander the streets topless when she's 15? No? Then I doubt you'd be to happy about her freely posting images of herself on the net either.

I'm not saying that charging her with child pornography is right. But she does need to understand the risk she's taking.

[an0n]

Originally posted by Turnsky
sounds like old british law...
they used to hang people for attempted suicide.

Ahaha. The good people (Read: Cock-smoking morons) of Hartlepool hung a monkey during WW2 because they thought it was a Nazi spy.

[mikhael]

Most laws on child pornography are written with the intent of stopping the production of child pornography. Consent is not even an issue--assuming that her consent as a 15yo is even considered legal in her state. One cannot consent to the commission of a crime. If the act is prima-fascia illegal, consent cannot be used as a defense.

Suicide, likewise, is attempted murder and can, in most states, be charged as such.

[Tiara]

Originally posted by mikhael
Suicide, likewise, is attempted murder and can, in most states, be charged as such.

Well, at least where I live I get to decide over my own life

Besides, 'attempted suicide' isn't an attempt at all. It's a cry for help. How can you not die from jumping off twelve floors up onto a nice concrete sidewalk? If you really wanna die you don't fail.

[Rictor]

How disturbing. You don't even have control over your own life anymore. Thats the ultimate control that is taken away, worse than all your civil liberties combined. Whats next, thoughtcrime?

[an0n]

Why is it that people are against the monitoring of thoughts?

It's just taking the fight against crime from the past tense to the future tense.

And if you know someone is reading your thoughts going "Hmmm. Bit of a wierdo, aintcha?" how likely are you to act upon such thoughts.

[Fineus]

Originally posted by Rictor
How disturbing. You don't even have control over your own life anymore. Thats the ultimate control that is taken away, worse than all your civil liberties combined.

This needs to be taken in context though, Consider that 50 years ago there was no internet. A man doesn't have to worry about his daughter posting pictures of herself in compromising positions at 15 - his worst worries are probably that she gets home by midnight.

Now people like you and me have access to these images, how to create and cultivate drugs, how to constract explosives or pick a lock.. or goodness knows what other information that - if we wanted it - would have been really hard to find before. People like you or me wouldn't have to worry about copying a cassette tape from a friends stereo and playing it back 10 years ago - now if we do it with an MP3 we could face a substantial fine or prison sentence... and all this can be done so easily that a 10 year old with basic computer training and the ability to read can get himself involved in it.

Governments haven't had time to properly consider laws to cope with these events as they unfold - it seems this really is the cutting edge of society.

Again I don't mean to say she deserved this prosecution - but the anonymity the internet affords is a boon and a curse  - my parents don't know what I do with this machine, and for all you guys know I'm not a boy but a 45 year old divorced woman living in Utah. Do you see what I mean? The amount of damage an innocent person could do to themselves without knowing it here is massive. The girl probably thought it was fun, maybe a slight turn on at the age of 15. The potential 50 something men in the dirty macs would think otherwise.

[Rictor]

Well, I was reffering to the suicide laws, but I get what you're saying. I never said I was against certain laws to curb criminal acts over the Internet, its just that, well, 15 years old is not *that* young. If she were 10 or 12, it would be a different matter, but 15 is a grey area. I mean, if you're old enough to have sex, and at 15 you are, then surely you are old enough to decide to post your naked self on the Net.

In either case, I still don't see how she can be charged. As someone mentioned, at worst this should be a "have a talk with the parents" issue. Now, the people who were looking at the pictures, thats a different matter.