[Black Wolf]

Err...can it? I know there's support in the tables for it, and I know I can use it, and I know V went to the trouble of giving the shivans velocity values along all  3 axes, but can they actually use it? I seem to recall hearing that they can't bandied about, and I figure if anyone's going to know, it'll be you fellows who can actually check (and understand) the code.

If they can use it, that'd be rather cool.

[Nico]

I've read somewhere that Bob implemented AI strafing, but goober said it messed up "stuff" and removed it.

[Bobboau]

yeah

[Fineus]

IIRC The Mara class strafed all over the shop?

[Black Wolf]

Originally posted by Kalfireth
IIRC The Mara class strafed all over the shop?

That's what I thought originally too, hence the topic.

[SadisticSid]

I thought the Scorpion did this a lot in FS1...

[Goober5000]

Whatever Bobboau did with strafing messed up the original game balance.  But one could probably design a specially balanced new mod and enable it via a table flag or something.

[Nico]

What did it exactly mess up? Coz I sure would love having the ships supposed to strafe, well, strafe. A "strafer" tag for the ship tbl would be nice.
Would have been cool for my old Descent campaign.
"sheds a tear"

[Unknown Target]

It's bizzare, the AI actually is killer with all the strafing implemented. In my experience, they form up teams (ish), and they actually use all the new axises (axesi? what's the plural of axis? )

[ChronoReverse]

The Shivan ai strafed all the time if you played on Insane difficulty.

Since most people don't play on that level, they don't notice it much.

[Unknown Target]

Well, that requires just a simple table change (switching the AI values). Then people could play on normal WITHOUT the uber-stupid wingmen and super-powerful weapons

[AqueousShadow]

So uhh...we had strafing, but it was taken out? Or did we have strafing for the AI and took it out? And if so, do we still have strafing? I never heard of this until recently...and uh...I'd LOVE to strafe.

Oh...and the plural of axis is axes

[Unknown Target]

Thanks

We have strafing.
Strafing was implemented for some shivan AI ships in vanilla FS2, but they didn't use it until the higher difficulty levels.
Strafing could be done for player ships.
Strafing done for player ships HAD to use the numpad, however.
FSO added a control changer to the strafing controls (I bound mine to WASD).

Cheers

[Lightspeed]

for strafing on shivan ships, I use my coolie hat

[Flipside]

I seem to recall that killing that first Shivan in FS1 was a complete bastard job, whereas doing it in the port didn't seem so hard... I wonder if that's anything to do with it?

[ChronoReverse]

Actually, I went back to FS1 two weeks ago and the first shivan was easy to kill now.  I think I just got better

[Bobboau]

maybe you'r playing on a lower dificulty level.

you know there were a few bugs in those missions, that one in particular, if you kept the plato alive it would never jump out, and you could never capture that one HOL ship

[ChronoReverse]

Considering that I played at Hard, it's rather unlikely I'm playing on a lower difficulty level (I played FS1 on insane as well, but I never beat it on that).

[Starks]

(I pulled a miracle and saved the Plato once...)

I also realized how to track the first shivan, use the "J" key. I POUNDED THAT MOTHER****ER WITH 20 MX-50'S!!!!

[Bobboau]

I got the Plato to the node nearly all the time, but it never jumped