[an0n]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3627775.stm

[kasperl]

meh


some arab dude who has nothing better to do let's his grandpa read a bit of propoganda into a tape recorder, mails it to some TV station, and  has a great laugh when he sees/hears it on the news.

[Lonestar]

Originally posted by kasperl
meh


some arab dude who has nothing better to do let's his grandpa read a bit of propoganda into a tape recorder, mails it to some TV station, and  has a great laugh when he sees/hears it on the news.

Ignorance is bliss? After the meeting with Isreal today i would be asking for a cease fire as well. Else its one big bloodbath for years to come, both sides know it but only one side is willing to cease hostilities.

Funniest Quote:

You cant bring democracy with force

The guy who said it is the same guy who asked to use force in Iraq to push forth democracy. Why are supporters of this war so blind?

[an0n]

Kasperl's brain is too damaged from all the mens groins banging into his forehead to understand the diplomatic and economic nuke Bin Laden just dropped.

It's a case of "Everyone accept or become a pariah". At best, it'll mean we can't **** with Muslim countries. At worst it'll fracture the EU and the UN into "**** Bin Laden" and "Accept the truce" factions.

[Lonestar]

Id rather get along with everyone then have to worry about the next big attack let me tell you.....
If peace is part of this solution, then you need to recognize all parties involved.

[an0n]

I just hope to god Blair doesn't do anything stupid.

I'd rather nudge one step closer to becoming a European Citizen than have the country be embargoed by the rest of the EU and bombed to **** by terrorists.

**** America, they're on their own.

[mikhael]

One thing I have to say I've always agreed with Reagan on was when he said, "We will not negotiate with terrorists."

I'm curious to see what the EU does, particularly Britain. I think the Brits should do what they should have done in the first place and say, "Sorry, George, you're on your own."

[an0n]

Hell yeah.

If/When Blair rejects it, the public reaction is gonna be hella-bad.

[Jiggyhound]

lets hope he gets screwed over by his own party if he tries to. Likelyhood is, he will.

[kasperl]

Originally posted by an0n
Kasperl's brain is too damaged from all the mens groins banging into his forehead to understand the diplomatic and economic nuke Bin Laden just dropped.

It's a case of "Everyone accept or become a pariah". At best, it'll mean we can't **** with Muslim countries. At worst it'll fracture the EU and the UN into "**** Bin Laden" and "Accept the truce" factions.

i thought of that, i'm not that stupid. the problem is, too many Osama tapes have passed sionce 911, so people are just too frickin bored to pay attention. i doubt that there will be any response, besides the CIA saying "it's fake, we know it's fake"

[an0n]

Personally, I hope he someone assasinates him.

I view him as a bigger threat to Britain than any terrorist.

Blowing up a few hundred people is nothing compared to systematically destroying the UK's infrastructure.

[Liberator]

You realize they are lying, right?

an0n, cooperating with the EU is killing Britain faster than anything else.  I don't consider Britain part of Europe and you shouldn't either.

[kasperl]

mmm.

Blair, *Shrub and Balkenende in a single room.

I would give my laptop for an explosion killing all three of them.


edit: bloody censor.

[Liberator]

You would rather them bend over and take it in the @$$?

[an0n]

Originally posted by Liberator
You realize they are lying, right?

an0n, cooperating with the EU is killing Britain faster than anything else.  I don't consider Britain part of Europe and you shouldn't either.

It's inconsequential.

They'll be stalling for time while they concentrate on ****ing America because they know they're boned.

I say, let America deal with their own **** and we can sweep up afterwards, when Al Qaeda get desperate enough to start trying to attack us again.

And the closer the UK comes to becoming an official subsidiary of the French economy, the more influence the BNP will get. And if there's one thing they're good at, it's kicking and screaming whenever anyone tries to give foreigners stuff. At the very least they'd force a referendum, which would smack the idea down quite nicely.

[karajorma]

Originally posted by mikhael
One thing I have to say I've always agreed with Reagan on was when he said, "We will not negotiate with terrorists."

I'm curious to see what the EU does, particularly Britain. I think the Brits should do what they should have done in the first place and say, "Sorry, George, you're on your own."

Worth trying if it works. Look at Northern Ireland. 30 years of not negotiating got us nowhere.

The best solution is to negotiate but take so long about it that everyone forgets what the original problem was. They seem to be doing a very good job of doing that in Northern Ireland.

[Bri_Dog]

....And if europe agrees and they get bombed a few months/years later?

[Janos]

Wait a minute.

1) What "EU"? The lands still follow their own policy.
2) They will laugh at this.

[karajorma]

Originally posted by Bri_Dog
....And if europe agrees and they get bombed a few months/years later?

That's the whole big problem with this statement. Who here believes that they can trust Osama Bin Laden?

Besides there are likely to be break away factions who still want to attack Europe same as with the Real IRA.

Still this isn't something that should just be ignored and forgotten about.

[Black Wolf]

I don't really agree withyou there an0n. With maybe a few, small exceptions, I'd be willing to bet European leaders'll ignore this one. For one thing, the "We do not negotiate with terrorists" line is beaten into every major western government these days pretty solidly, moreover, if people are willing to separate this from Iraq, then it's still sitting back and treating these people like anything other than the evil buggers they are. Do you think the spanish are just going to say "OK, all is forgiven, let's all just get along!"? I personally doubt it.

Also, the US will condemn this faster than you can say, well, much of anything, and in political and economic terms, keeping the US happy is more important than keeping terrorists happy, especially since, all things considered, these attacks aren't really killing that many people (Compared to the normal definition of war - I mean, compare the casualties from September 11 or Madrid to Pearl Harbour or Galipolli). If Al Quaeda were killing people, from dozens of European countries on a weekly or monthly basis, this might get more consideration, but really, per country, a major attack can be expected, what, every 20, 30 years? Given the average casulaty lists, that's comparable to the road toll. Bin Laden just doesn;t have the negotiating power in this particular situation.