[mikhael]

Gentlemen, tone it down. This is the reason why the Shrike impales people on the Tree of Pain.

Originally posted by Liberator


Okay, let's get one thing straight you leftist bugger, Cheney has no ties to Haliburton other than the friends he left behind.  He did take one thing with him when he left Haliburton however, the knowledge of what that company in capable of in what kind of time frame.  He did have such knowledge of the other two companies in the world , so it only makes sense on a perfectly logical level that he would favor Haliburton over the others.  You would do the same thing, and don't pretend that you wouldn't.

Actually, Cheney is still recieving $1 million from Haliburton annually. I believe the list it, officially, as 'back pay'. I'll reserve judgement as to what it actually is.

In light of that, its very difficult to believe that Cheney "has no ties to haliburton other than the friends he left behind," unless those friends are in the disbursing office.

[ionia23]

Originally posted by Liberator
There is a big difference between dissention and out-and-out hateful flaming.  

I have not, as yet, seen someone on the opposite side of mine suggest a course of action that is more than pie-in-the-sky wishful thinking.  All I see is more and more Dubya & Co. bashing.

That's what makes the extremes on both ends identical: "You are with us or you are against us".

[Liberator]

The Right, at least the ones I listen to, don't attack Kerry and his cronies for being who they are.  They attack his policies or rather, lack thereof.

[Kazan]

I can easily take it being thrown back at me moron, because your aim sucks

"Anyone who doesn't support the idea of nuking America out of existance" is a "warmongering nazi" - that's BACKWARDs

anyone who would support the idea of nuking America out of existance _IS_ a war monger - just like anyone else who proposes using nukes, starting wars when they're not clearly necessary


You tried stamping out the expression of free speech when it's questioning the motives of our so-called leaders

[Nico]

Originally posted by Gank
And I doubt europes intelligence is much use to the US when they cant even detect attacks in europe itself.

You're US, right?
Now that's a joke, You saying that

Let's compare... 3 trains, 2 towers. Ok, you got me there, there's one more train. You have other great peaks of arogance like this one? That sure is entertaining

[Rictor]

Alright, Kazan tone it down a bit. No name calling or the threads going bye bye. Hey, whatever happened to the "Owned" picture that would appear instead of the "Post Reply" button when a thread got locked. I remember it from my early days at HLP. Bring back the Owned pic :D

If you'de like to check my previous posts, I never called anyone names or flamed. Does excessive sarcasm qualify?

Liberator, you constantly talk about "realistic solutions", but thats a terribly defeatist attitude. 150 years ago, cars weren't "realistic". 1500 years ago, sailing across the Atlantic wasn't "realistic". And 50 years ago, India being free from British colonial rule wasn't "realistic". You must constantly strive for that which is not "realistic" because that it how progress is made.

You say that a peaceful world is not "realistic". But I say that it is inevitable. You have to make a distinction between "currently implemented" and "possible". An end to American imperialism isn't unrealistic. Not starting wars ever few years, thats not unrealistic. And end to economic rape under neo-liberal programs, thats not unrealistic.

edit: Venom, AFAIK he's Irish.

[Nico]

Ah yes, he's irish, my bad

[Nico]

Originally posted by Rictor
Liberator, you constantly talk about "realistic solutions", but thats a terribly defeatist attitude. 150 years ago, cars weren't "realistic". 1500 years ago, sailing across the Atlantic wasn't "realistic". And 50 years ago, India being free from British colonial rule wasn't "realistic". You must constantly strive for that which is not "realistic" because that it how progress is made.

You say that a peaceful world is not "realistic". But I say that it is inevitable. You have to make a distinction between "currently implemented" and "possible". An end to American imperialism isn't unrealistic. Not starting wars ever few years, thats not unrealistic. And end to economic rape under neo-liberal programs, thats not unrealistic.

Well, 2000 years ago, they were already believing a peaceful world was unrealistic. There lies the difference

[Gank]

A frenchman, calling me arrogant? lol

Originally posted by Zeronet
Also, the 10,000 foreigners are a supplement, surely you can admit, that there are iraqis being trained to be security guards and policement, which is new job creation, they're might not be many but they exist. UN.

Umm, 18 million unemployed Iraqis, they cant all be security guards. And whatever they are doing to create jobs, it doesnt detract from the fact that US contractors are hiring labour from outside the country. Btw if you look at the link, its quoting an Army officer, who I imagine would have very little to do with job creation? Its also out of date, 82nd handed Ramadi and the rest over to the 1st mef some time ago.

[Rictor]

Originally posted by Liberator
The Right, at least the ones I listen to, don't attack Kerry and his cronies for being who they are.  They attack his policies or rather, lack thereof.

And I'm against ****'s policies.

OK, fine, I admit it. I don't like the man. He got through life cause his daddy was the President and well connected. He did coke, drove drunk and failed at every business venture he ever got involved in. Then, he stole the election. Oh yeah, skipped out on Vietnam duty. Also, he isn't the smartest guy I've ever seen. But all that pales in comparison with his his policies. If he just got the hell out of politics, I wouldn't mind him. He can have his ranch and his failed businesses and his father's money, as long as doesn't bother anyone else.

His policies harm of people, and that is what bothers me.

[Nico]

Originally posted by Gank
Eh Nico, maybe you should look at the location to the left of my post
before you make yourself look anymore like a complete and utter idiot.

Hey, that can happen to anybody
Besides, my point stands true

Originally posted by Gank
A frenchman, calling me arrogant? lol

What do you know about french people save for stupid internet jokes, I wonder.

[Gank]

Originally posted by Nico


Hey, that can happen to anybody
Besides, my point stands true

No it doesnt cos I'm not from the US

What do you know about french people save for stupid internet jokes, I wonder.

Thought we established I'm not a yank? As for what I know, never been to france so experience is limited to exchange students, tourists, expats etc, but if you're speaking generally I could give you a run down on french history back as far as Charlemagne. The arrogant remark was meant as a joke on the stereotype frenchman, so dont get all arrogant over it

[Nico]

Originally posted by Gank

No it doesnt cos I'm not from the US



Thought we established I'm not a yank? As for what I know, never been to france so experience is limited to exchange students, tourists, expats etc, but if you're speaking generally I could give you a run down on french history back as far as Charlemagne. The arrogant remark was meant as a joke on the stereotype frenchman, so dont get all arrogant over it

1) yeah it does, if you disregard the part about you

2) yeah, what does this have to do with you being a yankee or not?
Anyway, stereotypes are usually wrong, I suppose you're not a drunken rugbyman, right?

[Gank]

The yank thing was about how the stereotypical yank doesnt have a clue about the world outside his backdoor. btw dunno bout the drunken rugbyman stereotype, rugby isnt a big game here unless we win something, regarded as a bit of a huns game. just drunken would be more accurate I guess.

[vyper]

For the record, in terms of culture and ideology I'm Scottish first, British second, and nothing else after that.

Now, ideally we'd sit back and let the US and al-Queda slug it out, and avoid either bothering us, unfortunately that won't work since the concept of giving an inch and losing a mile is very applicable to the muslim groups in most european nations. The moment we conceeded to a peace treaty we'd have to comply with every Iman (??) and activist or we'd be accused to attacking muslims. Yay us.

[vyper]

[q]regarded as a bit of a huns game[/q] Oh now there's a familiar term...

[Gank]

Aye, though we use it exclusively for the english, on account of them being german. Scots, regardless of political/religious leaning are descended from the Irish.

[01010]

Originally posted by Gank
Aye, though we use it exclusively for the english, on account of them being german. Scots, regardless of political/religious leaning are descended from the Irish.

I'm English but with Irish roots that go back to Co. Mayo. It explains the love of whiskey and folk music for sure.

[vyper]

[q]Scots, regardless of political/religious leaning are descended from the Irish.[/q]

True, everyone's got an irish granny or great granny somewhere.

[aldo_14]

Originally posted by vyper
[q]Scots, regardless of political/religious leaning are descended from the Irish.[/q]

True, everyone's got an irish granny or great granny somewhere.

'Scots' tribe came over the irish sea and merged with the native Picts, apparently.  Don't think anyone knows why it became 'Scot'land and not 'Pict'land, tho.