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Offline Kazan

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Holy Crap = EPA is dead
I'm reading "****whacked" and now I just learned soemthing that we should all be afraid of, very afraid.

Until 1995 there was a tax on all chemical producing coporations called the "SuperFund Tax" - it filled the coffers of the "SuperFund" which is what the EPA pays for cleanup with.  The SuperFund tax was killed by Newt Gingrich in 1995, Bill Clinton could not get the republican congress to reestablish it.

Once there was $3+ Billion in the SuperFund, now there is $23 million, and no new money coming it.  They cannot even pay for cleaning up one of the superfund sites.

Add to this the following

Until recently there was an independant EPA Ombudsmen's office.  The Ombudsmen answered to nobody but himself and could stick his foot up the EPA butt so hard that he could get them to do what needed to be done.  This was the person you turned to if the EPA was going to do something galactically stupid like burn waste that they haven't properly analyzed and containers things like mercury.  

Now under **** & Cheney the man who was Ombudsman for more than a decade, a native american who kicked a lot of but around the EPA and once said "I used to think that the government mistreaed only Indians.  I now know they mistreat all Americans." (which he was ordered to retract and said: NO -- his name was Bob Martin)

The ombudsmen used to derive it's power from being a seperate entity, not anymore.  The current administration made the office answerable to the director of the EPA - Bob Martin promptly resigned in protest.  Infact they did it when he was travelling on EPA business - they raided his office like imperial stormtroopers, stole every document, computer, etc and changed the locks to prevent him from continuing to work off his cellphone and laptop.






Now we have an EPA that is bed with big business and answers to no-one but big business and their monkey man in the white house.

Say hello to cancer.
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Offline Thorn

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This doesnt suprise me at all.

 

Offline Flipside

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:wtf: That's ****ty news Kaz :(

Well. Europe can pretty much give up on getting any Enivornmental concessions from the US now. They'll be so busy covering things up they'll never have time to expose anything :(

 

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Say hello to cancer and goodbye to an unspoilt Alaskan wilderness, right?

I can't believe that they wanted to have an ombudsman answerable to the body he's meant to oversee. That's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard.
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Offline aldo_14

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Is anyone surprised by this?

The sad thing is that it's unlikely to ever change, because of that magical phrase - 'campaign contributors'.

Even worse, it'll probably happen over here soon enough, too.

Bah.

 

Offline Rictor

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Kaz, read "Best Democracy Money can Buy". It has a few chapters dealing with various environmental wheelings and dealings. I've got it in electronic form, so just PM me if you're interested....

....uhh interested in buying it legally that is. I can recommend some quality stores.

:nervous: :nervous:

 

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well it's time to force total campaign finance reform that outright bans corporate contributions over a certain ammount (say $2000? :P)

or even better - all contributions go into a single pool which gets evenly divided out amongst the major candidates

they're not allowed to us personal assets to run their campaigns - unless they put those personal assets into the pool and get back their 1/n portion of it (n being number of eligible candidates)
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Originally posted by Kazan
well it's time to force total campaign finance reform that outright bans corporate contributions over a certain ammount (say $2000? :P)

or even better - all contributions go into a single pool which gets evenly divided out amongst the major candidates

they're not allowed to us personal assets to run their campaigns - unless they put those personal assets into the pool and get back their 1/n portion of it (n being number of eligible candidates)


That would be a good thing to do.
It sure would decrease the corruption atleast.
But ofcourse....getting anyone in power to actually DO this..

 

Offline Grey Wolf

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Offline Kazan

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**** söltet erschiessen
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The thing about the Superfund, as I understand it, was that certain parties in the Congress were raiding it for their pet projects and it would have been bankrupt by now.  If it had been better protected from misuse I'm sure it would still exist.

This is one, among many, many and still more reason's that all Federally elected positions should have Term Rates.
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No, it's another reason why they should administer an IQ test to all voters, the world over. Anyone under 120 gets banned from voting and/or killed.
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Offline Liberator

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an0n, if they did that even you wouldn't be able to vote.

But I would. ;7
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Offline Grey Wolf

You do realize that most of HLP is well above average, right? Most people here seem to have an IQ of about 130.
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Offline an0n

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/me was 138, 4-5 years ago
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Offline Liberator

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:wtf:  Could've fooled me...I'm 123 last I checked, of course that was 7 years ago.;)
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Offline an0n

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Internet tests don't count.
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136, last time I checked, but it was a cheesy online one (english by the way), so...

FreeSpacers tend to have much higher IQ's. Hell, just the SCP crew alone would grant the FS community with a pretty high average. :D
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Offline Grey Wolf

I'm at about 137, but I haven't actually taken an official monitored test.
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Offline Kazan

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i've taken two officially administered tests

well over 180 is all they'll tell me (both were government ordered :nervous: )
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