[delta_7890]

Originally posted by Liberator
You're sad they butched the ending?  They left the beginning completely out and it's better.

I'm not a big fan of Invoke.  I prefer Moment and Believe myself.  Also note, I didn't catch the very beginning.  I missed the first ten minutes or so.  <<;  I also noticed that they cut out a lot of the explosion scene, like when Nataru found surviving members of the ArcAngel.  <<;  Then again, that could have been from Phase 2.  My memory is slightly fuzzy on the first episodes, as I haven't watched SEED for a while.

[Liberator]

That's in Phase 3 or 4, I've only seen 1,2 and part of 3 that I "obtained".

The next ep is where Kira reprograms several of the Strike's mobility systems on the fly while battling a couple of Zaft suits.

Speaking of ZAFT, that just doesn't roll of the tongue like "Zeke Zeon!" does it?

[Darkage]

Bah...we need a decoder since about a year or two to see Cartoon Network.

[SadisticSid]

Wing was easily the worst of all the Gundam series, although SEED's ending was so rushed it cheapened what did, until the writers got bored, have quite a lot of promise. As for dubs the only one I've ever been convinced by was Ghost in the Shell.

[redsniper]

well, changing the subject a little here, but I just found something disturbing: Samurai Jack isn't on the air. I just checked CN's site. Bummer.

http://schedule.cartoonnetwork.com/servlet/ScheduleServlet?action=show&showID=318983&show=Samurai%20Jack

[Liberator]

They're probably saving up eps for the new season.

[Grey Wolf]

No, they're not. There's only 4 episodes left, total, and one of the 4 already has shown in the UK.

To get back to Gundam, though, I'll admit that I've only actually seen 4 Gundam series myself (6 if you count the one episode each of Gundam SEED and Mobile Suit Gundam). Out of those 4, I rate Gundam Wing the highest, with 08th MS Team shortly behind. The other two, G Gundam and SD Gundam, seem rather stupid compared to the rest.

[DragonClaw]

G Gundam was a joke, if not annoyingly repetitive

[Grey Wolf]

It wasn't even a war. It was a competition, and a lurking evil mecha. What fun is that? And how can you have the classic massed combat with that scenario?

[Liberator]

The purpose of G Gundam was, IMO, to combine the rabid popularity of shows like DBZ and put into a Gundam format, which it did wonderfully.  I like G Gundam, it was a little longer than it should have been but it's still fairly entertaining.

And as far as massed combat, didn't you see the Interlude in Tokyo where they introduced a lot of the main story elements, such as Master, the Shuffle Alliance and finally explained the Dark Gundam(Devil Gundam for you sub-t fans) or the final 8 episodes or so?

SD Gundam, was targeted at a much younger audience(6-9) than the usual 10-16 year olds that the other shows target as well as providing a bit of comedy for the Old Time Fans of the series.  I liked it, and the music was very cool.  I wish I could find the soundtrack.

[Flaser]

I wish I could get the original MSG, though I have some Z episodes too - very dark and to my liking, though I don't really like the transforming mecha. They look sily compared to Macross where they used the feature sensibly at to its full extent.

[delta_7890]

Originally posted by Flaser
I wish I could get the original MSG, though I have some Z episodes too - very dark and to my liking, though I don't really like the transforming mecha. They look sily compared to Macross where they used the feature sensibly at to its full extent.

Make no mistake.  Zeta and Methuss and the like were just gimmicks to sell some really cool model kits/MSiAs.  ^^;  I haven't sen any of Zeta personally, but I've heard it's really good.  As far as G Gundam and SD Gundam...they're jokes, and not really meant to be taken seriously.

Back to SEED, yes, ZAFT has many similiarities to the Prinicipality of Zeon.



WARNING: SOME SPOILERS AHEAD!!!



Both are based in space, and both are militiaries of the colonies (or PLANT in SEED's case).
Both developed MS before their Earth-based counterparts.
Both did some pretty nasty things to Earth.  (Zeon = colony drops/NBC warfare.  ZAFT = Nuclear Jammers)
Both have an antagonist who wears a silver mask.
Both have similar looking and performing MS.  (Zaku = GINN.  Gelgoog = GuAIZ)
Both create superweapons as a last resort. (Zeon = Solar Ray Cannon.  ZAFT = Genesis)
Both have genocidal viewpoints.  I.E, both want to kill off Earthnoids/Naturals.

The similarities go on.  ^^;  I really wish SEED's ending wasn't so rushed.  It was on its way to becoming one of the best G series ever.  *sigh*

[Setekh]

Do you guys get Gerard Reinke? His shows are screening here in Australia, I think it's produced by Comedy Central or something... it's ridiculous...

[Skaarj]

redsniper,

well, changing the subject a little here, but I just found something disturbing: Samurai Jack isn't on the air. I just checked CN's site. Bummer.

samurai jack is on toonanima at about 7 or 7.30 pm, well it is on in the uk,

SadisticSid,
 Wing was easily the worst of all the Gundam series, although SEED's ending was so rushed it cheapened what did, until the writers got bored, have quite a lot of promise. As for dubs the only one I've ever been convinced by was Ghost in the Shell.

i have to say i liked Gundam wing avent seen any of the others cos toonanima only showed wing, but i really liked it.

[redsniper]

well it's not on the air here...

[Liberator]

They just ripped the heart out of their afternoon lineup.

They've move Toonami to Saturday nights only, and have come up with something called Miguzi.(Can we get a translation, or at least find out if it's a real Japanese word?  HIG?)

4:00 = Spy Girls
4:30 = Code Lyoko (we'll see, look kinda cool)
5:00 = Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (die already)
5:30 = Teen Titans(I like it, but I liked it better on Saturday nights.)

[Grey Wolf]

Doubt that it's real. A fake Japanese word for fake Japanese shows.

[Turambar]

I'm just pissed off that they took Transformers out of the 6:30 AM slot and put Courage the Cowardly Dog there instead.  I want to watch Samaurai Jack when I'm eating Breakfast!!  And I'm a Gundam wing fan too, but I think that 8th MS Team had better animation quality and a cooler final battle (none of that Zero-System freak-out stuff).

[Turambar]

i have to say i liked Gundam wing avent seen any of the others cos toonanima only showed wing, but i really liked it.

toonami showed this other Gundam too, one of the early ones by the looks of it.

I taped Endless Waltz too, because of the kickass Wing-Zero Custom (a real piece of art, I even got a cheap model kit)

[Grey Wolf]

Note to self: Must buy Gundam Wing and Endless Waltz on DVD.