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Offline Raptor

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How many people remember this?


Well, Taking a break from the Aeolus, I went back to this ship and have begun smoothing it, the main complaint I got.

So far I've done the bow and stern sections, and the four 'fins'.






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Offline karajorma

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Much nicer :)
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that's a lot better. It does look a bit, well, 13 a dozen.
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Offline Gloriano

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Looks good :yes:
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Offline KARMA

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not bad, but I think that the original sucked because of those too large sections mapped with a tiled texture.
You have to break those areas, either in the model or the textures. Maybe you could take inspiration from the bridge area
nice work so far btw

 

Offline Raptor

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Yes! People approve of my first attempt at a Vasudan craft!:D

@Stealth[cro]:No, no, this is a third gen cruiser, with a simular role to the Aeolus (Anti-fighter/bomber, fast and nimble anti-crusier platform)

@Kasperl::confused:comment not compute. Please re-state

@KARMA:Thanks for the input, I'll see about that.  I may UVmap it like a fighter/bomber, not sure ATM:doubt:
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Offline Tiara

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Originally posted by Raptor
@Kasperl::confused:comment not compute. Please re-state


I think he means that the design is a bit too common. :) I agree. Nevertheless a nice ship indeed.
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Offline Taristin

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Or like it ate a baker's dozen pies...  I didn't like the first, and I don't like this one, but I appreciate the work you put into it.
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Offline StratComm

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The idea is fine, but there are three problems from my perspective.  1) it looks much too similar to the Sobek.  If you're making a new design, making it look like the old one isn't much use, and since you have more unbroken expanses on your model it will look worse when textured than the plain old Sobek.  2) it lacks a distinct edge.  All vasudan ships have them, in one form or another.  You should have a distinct "top" and "bottom" from geometry alone, and right now there isn't any distinguishing feature about any side other than the (ultimately trivial) bridge cutout.  3) it's too big for a cruiser (which can of course be fixed by providing suitable textures of appropriate scale) just looking at the geometry.  And I still can't get the lateral stripes that the original has around its neck out of my interpretation of the mesh; that texture was never, NEVER meant to be used that way.  As Raa said, I can appreciate the work, but I don't particularly like the end result.
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Last edited by StratComm on 08-23-2027 at 08:34 PM

 

Offline adwight

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I hate to say it, but it just looks like a giant missile.
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Offline Bobboau

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I'm going to be totaly honest, it's ass ugly
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Make it into a cruise missile, that's the only thing I can see it being.

And all these recemt things that look like a you-know-what makes me wonder if modders are just trying to get people banned for mentioning it. :doubt:

 

Offline Turambar

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Maybe a smaller Hatshetsput (SP?) version, more maneuverable, but less powerful
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Originally posted by Raptor

@Kasperl::confused:comment not compute. Please re-state



It's a Dutch saying. Normally, 12 go into a dozen, but if it looks very common, no-one will notice the 13'th one.

as other said, it needs more details and a more distinctive edge.
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Offline Raptor

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Originally posted by StratComm


1)Well, since I consider the Sobek to be the best looking Vasudan capship around, is really suprising that this resembles that?

Besides, It's still a WIP, the old shot was a rough WIP.


2)you may be right, though from the side the bow has one, makes it look like two clam shells joined together.

3)Well, sorry about the early textured version, but I didn'y have much choice about how the textures were alined.  Besides, I kinda liked the bands...:nervous:

I'll see about making a more noticeable Dorsal/Ventral divide.

@Bobboau: Well, thats your opinion.  I thought that that destroyer you posted in the 'Design A Destroyer' thread was ugly as hell, but I didn't say anything at the time, since I couldn't think of anything constructive (it reminded me too much of...dare I say it...Mr Blobby!:shaking: ).  You're just gone out and insluted my attempt with saying why you think it's ugly.

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Offline Setekh

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A vast improvement. I like it. :) I do think it's very, very similar to the Sobek and I'd love to see you put out something more original, but this is an important step in your growth as a modeler. Well done! :nod:
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Offline Sesquipedalian

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Honestly, it looks like a Sobek than went on a binge-and-purge without the purging.

*Imagines a troop of Vasudans singing Weird Al Yankovic's "Fat"*
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Offline Raptor

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Thanks Setekh, that post has really helped boost my faith of HLP.:nod:


New screenies, with comparasions with the Sobek and Mentu.





In those last two you can see the two/four slots I've added in an atempt at breaking up the large surface areas.  It's also narrower and flatter than before.

I feel that I should mention something about where this design is rooted from.  I see this as a cruiser that the Vasudans made with Terran help, since, IMHO, the Vasudans could never get a cruiser class right, while the Terrans do a good job every time.

Something along those lines, anyway.;)

Sesquipedalian, that's just, gross.:ick:
...There ought to be something surreal about a Zoid offering romantic advice...and yet there is not. It seems perfectly normal that the Liger is giving Bit advice on relationships, and it shouldn't, but it does. Dangit man, you've confused me again.[/I]
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