[Sandwich]

I've been wondering about the modus operandi of this network.

I have a 1,544/96 D/U ADSL connection, which means that at my max download speed (not through any p2p network), 200 kilobytes per second, my upload speed is almost completely occupied with supporting that download - reporting on packets received, requesting the next bit, etc. The slightest upload aside from that slows my download speed down .

So, back to BT. From what I understand, it's a tit-for-tat system. If you upload 100kb to someone, you also willl have downloaded 100kb from someone, no more, no less. You want to download at 150KBps? You need to upload at 150KBps.

Is this true, or did I completely misunderstand the system?

[Janos]

No no no.

If you download a lot and upload a little, your download rates go down. You CAN download 40 Megs and upload only 1,2, but it takes time.

[SadisticSid]

No, not a tit for tat system - at least for me - I've got a 1024/256 connection, and have limited the upload to 6KB/s max, and often get 120k downloads regardless. However, if there's someone uploading generously he'll be treated to a higher priority for downloading, I think.

[Sandwich]

Ahhhh... very good to know. So what if I allow only like 1kb upload during the daytime, but pump it up to 8-10kb at night, when the net's not being used? Will that average out into a decent download priority throughout the day and night, or is it a moment-by-moment thing?

[kode]

yes, it averages out over time.

but mostly it depends on how many other peers there are for the particular file/s you're downloading. the more, the better.

[Thorn]

Originally posted by Sandwich
Ahhhh... very good to know. So what if I allow only like 1kb upload during the daytime, but pump it up to 8-10kb at night, when the net's not being used? Will that average out into a decent download priority throughout the day and night, or is it a moment-by-moment thing?

If you're using a firewall, make sure you have the proper port mapped to your machine. Cante remember what one exactly, its on the site somewhere. If you dont, it will default to port 80 or something like that. Slow. As. Hell.

[kode]

ports 6881 and up, iirc.

[Kazan]

i hate bit torrent

[kode]

Originally posted by Kazan
i hate bit torrent

well, I hate potato salad, so I just don't eat it.

[Sandwich]

Thanks for the "information", Kaz. Care to enlighten us as to why?

Thorn, you mean just for BT, right?

[Rictor]

ports 6881-6889 I think.

I've tried and failed to open the correct ports on my router, so I'm stuck with slow downloads.

But I've been using BT for like 2 years and I love it.

[Kazan]

Sandwich: slow, no ability to administrate connection options, no details about progress, terrible performance

[Tiara]

I agree with Kaz on this one (what?). Besides, I've never found a thing I couldn't download with a P2P program orthe conventional way. You just have to know where to look

[Rictor]

have you tried a more advanced client, like Shad0ws or Azreus (sp?). They have tons more options than the defualt. The speed shouldn't be that bad unless you're behind a firewall with unopened ports, and even then...I don't know if you're expecting like 100 kb/s, but BT is roughly the same speed as other p2p applications I've used.

[DragonClaw]

Originally posted by Kazan
Sandwich: slow, no ability to administrate connection options, no details about progress, terrible performance

There's a multitude of alternate bittorrent programs, that have a ton of options. I personally use ABC bittorrent, which allows you to manage multiple files at the same time, each with their own max upload/download settings, as well as max number of peers to connect to, and priority settings.

[Sandwich]

Ideally....*sigh* ...I can't wait for quantum computing. All you'll have to do is click on a file, and it will be downloaded instantly via quantum tunneling and advanced prediction methods. It won't even need to use any bandwidth.

[Tiara]

Originally posted by Rictor
have you tried a more advanced client, like Shad0ws or Azreus (sp?). They have tons more options than the defualt. The speed shouldn't be that bad unless you're behind a firewall with unopened ports, and even then...I don't know if you're expecting like 100 kb/s, but BT is roughly the same speed as other p2p applications I've used.

You should try Direct Connect. They have hunderds of hubs (from which dozens share Terabyte+ of files) and you have different types of hubs (anime and sci-fi being the largest). You can choose from who you download. You can see the connection the person you download from has.

I've downloaded the entire Enterprise series from there (at a special hub) at a 70-100 kb/s d/l rate. And this was on my laptop which has a wireless cable connection and not the T3 one.

I'm currently downloading The Life of Brian at 101 kb/s

[kasperl]

why are you downloading TLoB? It's a great movie, but you should have it on VHS, or ripped on a DVD or something. It has been on TV quite a few times by now.

[Tiara]

Originally posted by kasperl
why are you downloading TLoB? It's a great movie, but you should have it on VHS, or ripped on a DVD or something. It has been on TV quite a few times by now.

It's a DVD rip which I'm going to burn.... errm... am I even allowed to discuss this here? If not, gimme a sign and I'll delete ie.

[Martinus]

[color=66ff00]Actually I think that bittorrent is one of the most impressive and useful ideas I've seen in a long time. I get excellent speeds, I can define how much I want to download/upload and the rate, it's got tiny memory requirements (except when verifying a file, which in itself is an excellent feature) and you can get lots of stuff that the likes of the Kazaa network just isn't good for.

Bittorrent is my friend, I invite him around to my place all the time.
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