[Ghostavo]

The EU is now the greatest economic force in the world.

[Moonsword]

*cocks eyebrow*  Interesting.  It helps when you have well over twice the population of the US to begin with.  By the way, I would keep a wary eye on China.

*shrugs*  Not that I care beyond a certain nationalistic pride.  At least Europe actually involves itself in true trade, unlike other regions that will go unnamed.  *coughs*China and Japan*cough*cough*

[mikhael]

Originally posted by Liberator


Have you even looked at recent numbers?  Jobs are up, market's are up.  The Clinton Recession is ending.

All I know about the "Clinton Recession" is that I had a job when Clinton was President. My sector of the economy was growing when Clinton was president. My profession was in demand when Clinton was president.

Under ****, I was unemployed for four months. Under ****, when I finally did find a job, it was with a literal (I do mean LITERAL) 50% pay cut from what I was earning when Clinton was president.

The Clinton Recession is ending, but the **** Depression is beginning.

(Lib, I know I'm exaggerating, but so were you, whether you'll admit it or not. There was no "clinton recession").

[Genryu]

Originally posted by Liberator


Have you even looked at recent numbers?  Jobs are up, market's are up.  The Clinton Recession is ending.

Didn't Clinton quit the White House with its budget in the green ? I don't call this a recession, but heck, if your perceptions are that warped, there's nothing that can be be done

[Janos]

Originally posted by Liberator


Have you even looked at recent numbers?  Jobs are up, market's are up.  The Clinton Recession is ending.

KKKlinton!

[Crazy_Ivan80]

Originally posted by Liberator


Have you even looked at recent numbers?  Jobs are up, market's are up.  The Clinton Recession is ending.

irrelevant to what Greywolf is implying.

In absolute numbers the Us economy may be bigger than ever before but in relative numbers the US economy has been in decline ever since the 50s

The US economy used to represent 50% (or more) of the world's economy.  Nowadays that's around 20% or so iirc.

Hence decline. Not because the US stopped growing but because the world is catching up faster than the US economy can leap away.

[USS Alexander]

The problem of the US is ****. first off you are not the most powerfull army of the world, again like vietnam you occupie a country in the wrong way, now bit by bit the us army will be defeated because of the iraqi people who most of them are against the us now.

Just like hitler and many other you are making the same mistake of not trying to win the people for you, one of the most important thing well....THE most important thing when occupiing a country.
If the US would have sended tons and tons of food to iraq and made good paying jobs available for the iraqi's enz enz there would be no problems, the iraqi people then would have loved **** and the terrorist would eventualy also die out of the lack of support, thats what the US should have done, let those trucks with food be driven by iraqi people and give him 1400$ a month salary there would be no problems then................cause that's the way to occupie a country and fight against terrorist not with boms and bullets, cause there is no army on the world that can defeat the people. **** sucks he only thinks of money and war and he aint a good president, clinton whas a good man also for the world.

[karajorma]

Clinton was crap. But **** is worse.

[Bobboau]

Alexander, while you make some good points about what we should be doing, if all the Iraqi people were against us, then there would be no way that we could hold that place for a day, let alone a year. I'm not saying it won't happen and the way Bush has been ****ing up so regularly it probly will soon enough, but don't jump the gun.

[ionia23]

Speaking of the Totally Innocent Iraq and ****'s Imaginary Weapons Of Mass Destruction

Stick THIS in your peace pipe and smoke it

[ionia23]

Originally posted by karajorma
Clinton was crap. But **** is worse.

Correct.  At least good 'ol Adolf had integrity, right?

[USS Alexander]

Originally posted by Bobboau
Alexander, while you make some good points about what we should be doing, if all the Iraqi people were against us, then there would be no way that we could hold that place for a day, let alone a year. I'm not saying it won't happen and the way Bush has been ****ing up so regularly it probly will soon enough, but don't jump the gun.

Not all of them are against the us no, but it's not good to see the situation escalating day after day, **** should realy do something.

[Bobboau]

yes he should, as I've said a number of times it's like he's _trying_ to lose

[karajorma]

Originally posted by ionia23
Correct.  At least good 'ol Adolf had integrity, right?

What the hell are you barking at now?

Clinton was a lying, womanising scumbag but the fact is that he was at least somewhat competent. **** on the other hand is - and lets be fair to him - a complete idiot.

There is a reason why he never speaks in public without having had time to prepare. It's cause he is incapable of thinking on his feet. That's a really bad flaw in the man who runs any country let alone the USA.

[ionia23]

Originally posted by karajorma


What the hell are you barking at now?

Clinton was a lying, womanising scumbag but the fact is that he was at least somewhat competent. **** on the other hand is - and lets be fair to him - a complete idiot.

There is a reason why he never speaks in public without having had time to prepare. It's cause he is incapable of thinking on his feet. That's a really bad flaw in the man who runs any country let alone the USA.

See, here we go.  Amazing that you would sympathize with a guy who nerve-gassed his own citizens for disagreeing with him, and you'd poo-poo the guy who went further than anyone ever has to resolving that Israel-Palestine issue to everyone's benefit.

Clinton was brilliant.  His stunt with the 'cigar' was the only thing he did that can be referred to as 'idiotic'. and that's simply because he got caught.  He did an awesome job helping us recover from the Reagan/**** years economically, his foreign policy was as good as it gets, and he was a genuinely decent human being who gave a **** about the opinions of people making less that 200,000 dollars a year.

The comment about "never speaking in public without time to prepare" is pure stupidity.  I expected better.

[karajorma]

What the hell are you on about now? You're just making this **** up as you go along aren't you?

**** solve the Israel-Palestine issue? Ha. I see absolutely no difference now from 5 years ago. A settlement is still as far away as before.

[ionia23]

Originally posted by karajorma
What the hell are you on about now? You're just making this **** up as you go along aren't you?

**** solve the Israel-Palestine issue? Ha. I see absolutely no difference now from 5 years ago. A settlement is still as far away as before.

I thought this might be lost on you, but that's okay.  I understand your true position much more than before.

Clinton came close to getting that Israel/Palestine thing fixed.  Two problems though

Arafat backing out at the last minute, and the Israel guy being killed by one of his own people, neither of which were in our control.

[Flipside]

As far as I was aware, until the last few months of his existence in the White House, Clinton passed just as many dodgy environmental bills as **** does. It was Clinton who blocked the rule on minimum MPG's for SUV's, and don't even mention mercury dumping
It was only after it was clear that he was leaving that Clinton passed a pi;e of environmental laws that he knew would have to be revoked by his replacement, since they meant that industry would be getting, quite frankly, less money, and industries certainly don't give a ****e about the American enivronment, but they DO give a ****e about getting less money.

Remember, this was the President who stated that because Germany had produced way below their 'allowed' sulphur emissions under UN convention, that is was perfectly reasonable for America to take the 'leftover' and add it to their own tally.

Ah well, debating then won't fix now I guess

[karajorma]

Originally posted by ionia23
Clinton came close to getting that Israel/Palestine thing fixed.  Two problems though

Arafat backing out at the last minute, and the Israel guy being killed by one of his own people, neither of which were in our control.

I agree 100% about that. Clinton came much closer to ending that whole nonsense than anyone since. That's one of the reasons I say he was better than **** ever will be.

Originally posted by ionia23
See, here we go. Amazing that you would sympathize with a guy who nerve-gassed his own citizens for disagreeing with him, and you'd poo-poo the guy who went further than anyone ever has to resolving that Israel-Palestine issue to everyone's benefit.

Look Ionia. You can't just make up **** to justify your arguement. When have I ever said I sympathise with anyone who'd use nerve gas? Either you're mixing me up with someone else or you're just inventing entire postings that never happened so you can argue against them.

In fact you're the person who keeps on saying the US should use nerve gas in Iraq. I'm against that. For you to turn around and claim that I supported the use of nerve gas is rank hypocrisy. You really need to decide which side of the fence you're sitting on here.

As for Clinton he's a tosser. Just like almost every single other politician in the world.  He's just less of a tosser than most and a positive saint when compared to the moron you've got leading your country at the moment.

[ionia23]

Originally posted by karajorma
I agree 100% about that. Clinton came much closer to ending that whole nonsense than anyone since. That's one of the reasons I say he was better than **** ever will be.

Good, that's settled.


Look Ionia. You can't just make up **** to justify your arguement. When have I ever said I sympathise with anyone who'd use nerve gas? Either you're mixing me up with someone else or you're just inventing entire postings that never happened so you can argue against them


Well, if the shoe fits...I see plenty of critiquing of US actions everywhere in the world.  I never see critiques of anyone elses, least of all these fruit loops who are under the impression suicide bombings will actually work (in a political sense).  *shrug*


In fact you're the person who keeps on saying the US should use nerve gas in Iraq. I'm against that. For you to turn around and claim that I supported the use of nerve gas is rank hypocrisy. You really need to decide which side of the fence you're sitting on here.


Funny.  And all this time I was under the impression British humor was based on sarcasm and irony.  Go figure.  I do what I do, but I don't always do what I say.  There's no American flag on MY fuel efficient import vehicle.  Think about it.


As for Clinton he's a tosser. Just like almost every single other politician in the world.  He's just less of a tosser than most and a positive saint when compared to the moron you've got leading your country at the moment.

Hey now, I didn't vote for ****, don't pin this stuff on me.  Republicans, by nature, can't be trusted.  Then again, neither can anyone who has to deal in abstracts.  You said 'almost every other politician in the world'.  Can you name any that don't meet the 'tosser' requirement?