[diamondgeezer]

'Lo dudes. Moving house sucks many eggs. I thoroughly recommend against it.

Part of the problem is networking my bro's computer with mine. We're both running XP - he Pro and I Home. I've slapped a length of crossover between them (ie. no hub) and assigned IP adresses to each. Now, from my experience with Win98, that ought to do the job more or less.

What's strange is that I can ping my box from his, but I can't ping his box from mine. If I unplug the network cable from either box, both claim the local area network is unplugged. Yet I can't see either computer from the other.

It's utterly bizzare, and since my tech contact is stumped, I'm opening to problem up to you lot. Advise away

[EDIT] Fix0rated

'Twas the firewall on me bro's box buggering it up. Cos I'd always dealt with a router network before, this firewall buisness is all new to me and I plain overlooked it

[karajorma]

Firewalls?

If not check that both computers are in the same workgroup from the networking wizard.

Assign the IP numbers manually on both computers (192.168.000.xxx is probably the best choice)

[Martinus]

Originally posted by karajorma
Firewalls?

If not check that both computers are in the same workgroup from the networking wizard.

Assign the IP numbers manually on both computers (192.168.000.xxx is probably the best choice)

[color=66ff00]Actually I've found that if you're just setting up a lan the range 10.0.0.* is far more friendly, something about windows expecting 192.168.*.* to be used primarily for ICS I think.
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[Nico]

If you have a copy of pro, why do you install the familial edition?

Btw, unrelated, but how is Longhorn coming along?

[Liberator]

Longhorn == 2006 at least.  They have apparently learned from teh debacle of XP and it's security holes and are making double sure that Longhorn is as hole free as possible.

[karajorma]

Originally posted by Maeglamor

[color=66ff00]Actually I've found that if you're just setting up a lan the range 10.0.0.* is far more friendly, something about windows expecting 192.168.*.* to be used primarily for ICS I think.
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Fair enough I use ICS at home so....  

[aldo_14]

Originally posted by Liberator
Longhorn == 2006 at least.  They have apparently learned from teh debacle of XP and it's security holes and are making double sure that Longhorn is as hole free as possible.

Either that or they just completely ****ed up the development.

[kasperl]

Originally posted by karajorma


Fair enough I use ICS at home so....  

192.168.0.1 is always the standard gateway/router IP.

And yeah, firewalls can really wreck a LAN.

[Martinus]

[color=66ff00]From What I've read on places like slashdot Longhorn's minimum hardware requirement is obscene, I don't have figures offhand but I remember feeling distinctly horrified when I saw what M$ reckoned you'd have to have to run it.

*Meanwhile behind this innocent looking bookstore... Maeglamor installs Gentoo*
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[kasperl]

Yeah, I doubt I'll ever buy a new windows version, unless it comes with the PC.

[Petrarch of the VBB]

I'm gonna use 98 until it physically collapses.

[kasperl]

Petrarch: That'll be about the minute before you installed it.
Really, win98SE is nice, but XP might just be a bit more stable. Not sure though, check the thread about XP and scandisk for a very interesting crash.

[ChronoReverse]

First.  Make sure the built in firewall is turned off.


Second.  WinXP has some default security settings that disallow guest network access.  For a simple home network, there's no point of having this on.

So goto Control Panel->Administrative Tools->Local Security Settings

Then goto Security Settings->Local Policies->User Rights Assignment->Deny access to this computer from the network

Double click that and remove "guest" from the list.



As a side-note someone once over-reacted and told me in rather blunt terms that there was a reason why MS changed this setting and that it shouldn't be touched.  However, in most peer-level home networks, you just want everyone to be able to see everything anyways so _it will not be a problem_.

[Jiggyhound]

bah! windows XP seems a little too feminine to me, whereas win98 is a MANS os

[ChronoReverse]

Eh?  You mean Win2k is.

In any case, you can always turn off the visual customizations altogether and it'll suddenly look like Win2k again.

[Taristin]

2K ALL THE WAY!!!!11!oneoneone

[diamondgeezer]

Right, the two boxes now talk to each other. No problems with that.

What I can't figure out is this whole interweb connection sharing buisness. Like I said we've got an ADSL modem going in to me bro's box via USB. This is why his box is firewalled, see?

Anyway, I've tried running the interweb sharing wizard gizmo on both boxes, but all that does is stop them communicating all together. Perhaps it's not taking in to account the fact they're connected directly rather than via a hub.

So anyone that can offer some inspiration, please fire away

[Liberator]

My advice, get a Router and plug the two machines into it.

[Martinus]

[color=66ff00][french monty python knights]Fah! I laugh in your generhal directeons sillae windows people![/french monty python knights]

Linux is a real man's os. It's like a car, you tweak it and tweak it not only for performance but simply because you can.

*Flexes then struts away*
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[kasperl]

Ah.

Well, I can't help you. MS changed the location of every friggin option compared to win98SE, and I am not going to spend a studying night on looking that **** up for you. Just find whereever it defines the standard gateway, and input the right IP adress.