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Offline an0n

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Remember, the Dominion were only a little more advanced than the Federation and they were able to take Betazed.

Time-travelling could be very cool if they did it right, instead of all this vague half-true, reset-button, predestination-paradox bull****.

Someone, somehow, should **** up everyone. Even if they keep it entirely non-canonical and DO use the reset button at the end.

Some all-powerful new foe should come along that the Federation doesn't find a way to defeat other than throwing more and more people and ships at them.

They should kill Trek. But do so in the movie-format, blaze of glory the Federation deserves. By pulling together EVERYTHING from TOS through to VOY. All those god-like races Kirk found and screwed; All those little-mentioned races; All those mercenaries and rogues who outwitted everyone and sailed off into the big black yonder; All those space-borne aliens who kicked everyone's ass; Hell, even the Q.

Something should come along to kill them all, picking them off 1-by-1 as they make their way towards Earth and Vulcan. And it should kill them all. And the Federation should be pissing in it's pansy red booties as the danger draws ever closer and they begin hearing more and more reports of the new Scimitar squadrons being tossed aside by the enemy, Romulan planets being turned to ash and entire Borg fleets engaging the unknown enemy. This would be played up to the extreme: Collosal armada's of Borg vessels moving against the unknown enemy. Season 3 should open with the Klingons coming under attack and their fleets being ground to dust; The smaller empires falling to advanced forces and screaming to the Federation for help. The latter half of season 3 would be the fall of the Klingon Empire and the quiet before the storm as the enemy consume the Empire's resources to replenish their fleet. Then, around season 4, the danger and all the God-like, arrogant, technologically superior, formerly-smug-bastard, alien refugees should reach the Federation's borders.

By the latter half of Season 6 the Federation core world (maybe just Earth, Vulcan and a defiant Kronos) should have some defence. Not a chance of winning, but something incredibly dangerous and short-lived to hold back the storm.

In the S7 finale the defence falls and there should be two things that happen: Firstly, we find out from the Rebel Borg that the uber-species is the reason for the Borg's existence. Someone like Q figured out that everyone was screwed and engineered the Borg as a last line of defence, working under a 'better assimilated than dead' mentality. Secondly, every last ship in the galaxy should make a BOE/Battle-of-the-Line stand around the Core Worlds.

Then, as the fleets lay in ruins and the cities of Earth being to disappear in collosal fireballs, some geek in a lab (Barclay for instance) should do something ala Kim's death in VOY[Timeless] that totally and utterly rapes the fabric of space and time, involving Picard. Then we cut back a few years to the Ent-E, coasting along the Romulan border, scanning empty space. Picard looks out at the blackness then turns, sits in his command chair and listens on his private comm to the sounds of the Earth Fleet falling to the Borg. "There's some kind of vortex forming!" we hear. Pan in to Picard's face, the screen flickers and the camera moves out to show him sitting in an alcove aboard some nameless Borg Cube.

Fade to black.
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The possibilities as I see them;

- Second Dominion War. With the Klingon weakened, Romulan senate dead and only the Feds to worry about while their fleet in the Gamma Quadrant hasn't even been touched by the war, the Founders could just say screw the treaty and go in full force. Or they could subvert a government and plunge the AQ into war while nobody suspects the Dominion anymore.
- Militarization of the Federation: With the Borg invasions, Dominion War, Romulans in disarray and the Klingon houses fighting eachother, the Federation steps down from it's high morals and begins a militarization program. Romulans and Co. don't like it, Klingons grin at the sight of their powerful ally but are to busy killing eachother for honor.
- Full Borg Invasion: Built on the previous notion, where the Borg notice the militarization and attack the Federation full force. Multiple cubes start destroying outlying colonies one by one instead of flying directly to Earth. Klingons and Romulans are also attacked. Borg can't be stopped and VOILÁ, the transphasic and expanding ablative armor were born. Feddies beat back the Borg to a degree but they hold on to the outer colonies but seize the incursions. Feds refuse to share the transphasics and armor with the other powers and tension mounts...
- Q-Trials: Q said to Picard "The Trial is never over...". This could be somehow related to the Borg invasion, but Q should be a little bit more elaborated.

And about 100 other storylines...

Anyway, I need coffee cuz I just woke up.
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The first one isn't a possibility.

After Sacrifice of Angels it's been implied (though I dunno if directly stated) that any Dominion ship(s) passing through the wormhole would suffer the same fate as the first lot.

And now that Sisko controls the wormhole and Odo controls the Great Link, I doubt the Dominion are much of a threat anymore.

It's the Breen and Rogue Jem Hadar that the Feds would have to worry about.
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Originally posted by an0n
....Pan in to Picard's face, the screen flickers and the camera moves out to show him sitting in an alcove aboard some nameless Borg Cube.

Fade to black.


I love anti-happy-endings...that's why I think this would rock. Actually your whole plot sounds more entertaining than the recent ST plots.
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The first one isn't a possibility.

After Sacrifice of Angels it's been implied (though I dunno if directly stated) that any Dominion ship(s) passing through the wormhole would suffer the same fate as the first lot.

And now that Sisko controls the wormhole and Odo controls the Great Link, I doubt the Dominion are much of a threat anymore.

It's the Breen and Rogue Jem Hadar that the Feds would have to worry about.

First of all, I hate it when people say 'Sisko controls the wormhole'. He doesn't. He was  asked to join after he fullfilled his job for the Prophets. It's not like he instantly weilds supreme power over them.

Somehow I doubt they'll take action unless they directly threaten Bajor. Mainly because the Prophets dun really care about the linears. They helped them once after Sisko pleaded to them but in the end they probably just did it to protect Bajor, not the rest of the AQ.

In short; Unless they went all ballistic, ships can just pass through.

Besides, the Changelings could just infiltrate the governments again. :D
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First of all, I hate it when people say 'Sisko controls the wormhole'. He doesn't. He was  asked to join after he fullfilled his job for the Prophets. It's not like he instantly weilds supreme power over them.

Somehow I doubt they'll take action unless they directly threaten Bajor. Mainly because the Prophets dun really care about the linears. They helped them once after Sisko pleaded to them but in the end they probably just did it to protect Bajor, not the rest of the AQ.

In short; Unless they went all ballistic, ships can just pass through.

Besides, the Changelings could just infiltrate the governments again. :D

They're all dead.

The Changelings and the Prophets.

There were only a handful of Founders in the Alpha Quadrant to start with and a few of them were killed off. Then the wormhole got shut down and they mentioned the Female Founder being trapped alone in the Alpha Quadrant.

And the wormhole did get shut down. C'z there's some one-liner reference in a later episode about the Prophets keeping the Dominion in the Gamma Quadrant. I think maybe Dukat says it before he does the Pah Wraith statue thing.

And finally: The only Prophets left are Sisko's mother and Sisko. So the whole 'non interference' thing only goes as far as Sisko is willing to let it.
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My ideal trek would be similar to a lot of what's been mentioned here. First off, definitely have it revolve around a feddy fighter squadron, but in a SAAB or Wraith Squadron style where they're also capable of ground actions

Start it off about half a season before Nemesis, run them through standard Star Trek stuff from a Fighter pilots perspective. Then, at about the half way point they receive word that Captain Rikers negotiations have failed with the hard line military government that rose to fill the power vacuum left by the Senate's assassination. Tensions along the romulan border, occasional skirmishes and intelligence plots and the like until the seaon one cliffhanger when a fleet of romulan ships invades the federation. Arm 'em with Trilithium weaponry, and then tie up the Klingons (feds closest real allies) with an invasion of their own home systems by the tholians (presumably orchestrated by the Romulans). So you're left with the Feds fighting the romulans essentially alone, getting the occasional star blown up, and diverting as much of their fleet as they can to assisting the Klingons (Including a certain fighter squadron for a season or so).
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The problem is that the Federation do learn too fast, they've more or less cut the existence of the 'Star Trek' universe to a space of about 600 years, from Enterprise to being stuck in a temporal cold war.  From that point onwards it's pretty dull unless your into the idea of :shudders: a series based on the 'Time Secority Division' or the like, which would be lthe most pointless series ever, since every episode will end up with them going back in time and fixing whatever they screwed up.

A dominion re-invasion would be interesting, but I don't see it happening with the combined influence of Sisko and Odo.

In predicatble Star Trek fashion, I see the House of Morg rising to ascencion in the Klingon Empire. So I suspect things will calm down there, and the Romulan Sentate would have been replaced pretty quickly, after all, it's not as if this sort of thing is uncommon in Romulan society. Though closer relations with the Federation will prove interesting :D

Enterprise will be the run-up to the Klingon War, I think the Original Star Trek was set about 3 years after the end of the Klingon War, judging by how keen Kirk and a Klingon were to restart it in 'The Organian Treaty'. I'd be interested to hear what came of them too ;) So, the only period really left is the gap between TOC and TNG, theres a lot of possibility for a new exploration series there :)

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The House of Mogh/Mohg is dead.

Kurn had his memory wiped to stop him killing himself from dishonour and Worf-N-Alexander are now a part of the House of Martok. And I doubt he'd want to go starting up his own house seen as Martok and his family are basically Klingon royalty now.
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Well, let's say I can see Worf ending up as Emperor to put it in more precise terms then :D

 

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Even in the 'everything went to ****' All Good Things... future Worf ended up as the Governor of some backwater planet.

Having killed Gowron, taken the 'throne' and given it to possibly the greatest warrior, general and leader in Klingon history - I doubt he'd end up scrubbing plasma ducts on a garbage scow.
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Mind spelling that out for us, Singh?  I've seen most of Voyager but don't remember that part.


Well; we know that the Borg have 'backups' of each individual it assimilates.

We know that Lore was directly involved with the Borg.

Well; thats the basic of that theory. What is good here is the enourmous potential to make use of this to not only bring back Lore, but to shatter some Moral Absolutes and pose questions of Brotherhood in the potential interaction between lore, b4 and maybe even Data.
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an idea for a series:
Something like a fighter squadron would be a good thing....but lets make it interesting. A Federation fighter squadron would be fun, but in the end its still....well, its still the federation. But what of a mercenary squadron based onboard a civvy starship? If you want to make it interesting, don't just make it a Merc squad, but if it were involved somehow in the grand scheme of things (like, for instance, playing a small part helping out the klingons during the Dominion War) while still not playing too big a part, you get a pretty good feeling and background for it. Introduce proper character interaction and make sure not to restrict it just to fighters, and you've got potential for some good there.
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Well; we know that the Borg have 'backups' of each individual it assimilates.
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ok, wrong word there.
But do you remember 7of9 mentioning something about the Borg having the individual's memories upto the point of seperation stored inside the collective?
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They got their memories, not complete mental backups.
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They got their memories, not complete mental backups.


Yes, to you and me this would pretty much be the limit that would be achievable. But what would a positronic brain, even one as demented as lore's be able to achieve in such a scenario? He was able to ring absolute control over the Borg in his command, with exception of the few that escaped; with the complexity of the Collective that is revealed in later episodes, it is pretty dumb to think that he wouldn't at least look or try such an option.
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Where do you get these scripts from!!!!11111


Sort of.

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