[Stealth]

1) What's the symbol of a relays?
2) What voltage does an average visible LED run on?
3) How much does a relays cost that takes input from LED voltage and switches mains?
4) How much do basic LED's cost?
5) And how much does a switch cost for LED voltage?

1) http://www.kpsec.freeuk.com/components/relay.htm
2) depends man, there's many different types.  you can pretty much choose what one meets your needs
3) you have to draw out the circuit first, then try to find a relay/LED that corresponds with the voltage you need.  draw it out though first.
4) umm you can get them at AutoZone, O'Reillys, etc. but they'll rip you off.  buy the LEDs online.  Ebay has tons.  lots of online electronic supply stores too.  always cheaper to buy in bulk.
5) check #3

my switches i bought with the lights in them.  i'd probably suggest you buy the switch/light combo  cheaper, and a lot less work.

[kasperl]

Off course I won't hook it up all at once, and off course I'd prototype it. But doing it this way, I clean up at least 4 standard switchboxes lying all around the place, sometimes under my bed and stuff. And yeah, I know this isn't the safest thing to start with, current situation with mains lines carrying the wait of AC-DC adapters because I couldn't get a long enough cable isn't safe either.

Mind, if at any point this **** seems off, I can always just throw the entire thing away.

I'm thinking of wiring the entire room through the panel, including lighting. Would it be smarter to run low voltage switchlines, with a  parelel mains line, through the entire place splitting later, or switch everything at the box, and run 8 parelel mains lines?

I made a quick little list of stuff to run through this, and ended up with this:

http://www.sectorgame.com/huiswerk/temp/Pagina.htm

[Martinus]

[color=66ff00]Better to draw some kind of connection diagram that shows what you want on each switch.

Personally I'd go as simple as possible after a bit of reading I notice that the plugs in your part of the world have realtively straightforward wiring compared to here. That should simplify things a bit.
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[kasperl]

OK, that sucked.

According to my dad, I'm looking at €50 for a mains relay switch. That times 23 means €1150 euro's, about the price of a brand new, mid spec computer without a screen.

So, the whole soldering plan just got canceled. This leaves me basic switchboxes, some carpentry, and a whole **** lot of those plastic binder thingy's. (Off course, folded wires, with extra isolation+ventilation.)

[kasperl]

Originally posted by Maeglamor
[color=66ff00]Better to draw some kind of connection diagram that shows what you want on each switch.

Personally I'd go as simple as possible after a bit of reading I notice that the plugs in your part of the world have realtively straightforward wiring compared to here. That should simplify things a bit.
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Yeah, I think I'll end up with basic switchboxes.

And no, no fuses in the plugs here, thank god.

BTW, what's the difference between a "solid" wire like the one they use in walls, to the twisted thing you find in a normal wire?

[Stealth]

Originally posted by kasperl

BTW, what's the difference between a "solid" wire like the one they use in walls, to the twisted thing you find in a normal wire?

stranded wire is easier to bend, and will withstand a lot more flexing than solid wire.  solid wire is cheaper to produce.  it's used in environments where the wire, once in place, will not move (such as houses).  stranded on the other hand, is used in household appliances, extension cords, etc. where the wire is bound to be bent sharply and often.

[Janos]

cold fusion

[StratComm]

I'm guessing from the Beer-keyboard post that I saw somewhere around here and the rash of completely nonsensical posts in the last hour or so that you are a) drunk, b) haven't slept in a long time, c) are someone using Janos' nick or d) some combination of the above.  So for sanity you get the big


Kasperl, there's a reason this sort of thing comes off-the-shelf.  While it wouldn't be to hard to rig up a simple switchbox, you're asking for trouble later on (nevermind that whatever you build will be just as failure-prone as whatever you have now).  And from what I'm reading, you're talking about enforcing a 1-on at a time setup for your room, which seems to largely defeat the purpose of having multiple systems.  Nevermind the fact that desktop computers are really designed to be hooked up to a power source continually.