[Bobboau]

the whole 60 minutes fake document thingy. why hasn't someone brought that up yet, it's been a few days, would have thought Liberator or someone would have come in with a whole "liberal media bias" thing.

for those of you who don't know, a CBS news show called 60 minutes, ran a story questioning Bushes long ago national gaurd service, a central peice of evedence was a bunch of documents writen by a dead guy saying that he had been preasured into going easy on him and letting him get off of duty and... eating childeren and stuff (you get the idea). well the next day a bunch of document experts were looking at the documents and came to the conclusion that they had actualy been writen in MS word (not widely available 30 years ago ) and thus there is a huge flak pack about CBS being biased against Bush and stuff. if you want more/better information just go to google and type in "60 minutes" and maybe 'documents' check there news thing.

just felt like sturing things up before I go to sleep, happy fighting:)

[aldo_14]

I've never heard of this nor of the documents mentioned.

[Grug]

Me niether, but as for the documents, could it not be that they were put into MSWord so as to keep them in better order?

of companies are moving from paper copy to electronic version, maybe these 'documents' were just reproduced as part of an upgrade or better reading?

[Rictor]

uhhh, not this.

Look, I'm all for politics, but getting into the finer points of typeface kerning written on a typewriter 30 years ago is a bit too much, even for me.

It doesn't matter if the documents are real. Does anyone doubt that Bush was (is) the spoiled child of a politically influent figure? Normal rules don't apply to him - daddy can take care of everything.

Besides, Bush has made no attempts to counter any of the numerous arguements about him going AWOL, and the military record that was released by the White House was severely cut down and incomplete. I don't know about you guys, but if I was the Prez, and someone accused me of going AWOL, and I had mountains of evidence to prove them wrong, I'de release it, not stand there with a big dumb grin on my face doing nothing.

[aldo_14]

Originally posted by Rictor
uhhh, not this.

Look, I'm all for politics, but getting into the finer points of typeface kerning written on a typewriter 30 years ago is a bit too much, even for me.

It doesn't matter if the documents are real. Does anyone doubt that Bush was (is) the spoiled child of a politically influent figure? Normal rules don't apply to him - daddy can take care of everything.

Besides, Bush has made no attempts to counter any of the numerous arguements about him going AWOL, and the military record that was released by the White House was severely cut down and incomplete. I don't know about you guys, but if I was the Prez, and someone accused me of going AWOL, and I had mountains of evidence to prove them wrong, I'de release it, not stand there with a big dumb grin on my face doing nothing.

but...but....but... he went to the Dentist!  He must have been in the whatever the hell he was in!

Of course, even if he did serve, he was in the bloody Texas Militia Air Force... what would he have done?  Bombed clear areas of encroaching cactus?  Maybe he's developed a morbid fear of sand dunes, and that's why he's invaded 2 desrt countries?

[TrashMan]

LOL

[magatsu1]

Gettin' into the National Guard was a well known way of avoiding a tour in Vietnam.

[Bobboau]

Originally posted by Rictor
Does anyone doubt that Bush was (is) the spoiled child of a politically influent figure?

not me

[Kazan]

and those 'experts' that said they were made in MS Word got served when a manufacturer of typewriters came forward reminding them "we had typewriters capapble of doing that in the 1940s" in reference to the thing that made them say it must have been written in MSWord (superscript)

[Rictor]

plus, the day after CBS released this, the White House released copies of the documents in question.

No questions, no suspicions, just released 'em. Which leads me to believe that they believe (that I believe that they believe) that its legit.

[ionia23]

The big question is: so what?  There really isn't much more that can be piled before the current administration to make it look any worse.

[MatthewPapa]

I read about this somewhere. Its not news to me that CBS is biased against Bush. Ever since the 2000 election I have held the opinion that all major media organizations except for FOX (7 out of 8 organizations) are biased against Bush. These days there doenst seem to be one reliable news source. Its amazing how differenct stories can be twisted to sound totally different than they actually are.

[Rictor]

Look, I know you're not, but can you just pretend you're being sarcastic so we can avoid the long, drawn bout of ridicule that will ensue as a result of that comment?

[karajorma]

Originally posted by MatthewPapa
I read about this somewhere. Its not news to me that CBS is biased against Bush. Ever since the 2000 election I have held the opinion that all major media organizations except for FOX (7 out of 8 organizations) are biased against Bush. These days there doenst seem to be one reliable news source. Its amazing how differenct stories can be twisted to sound totally different than they actually are.

Seriously if the guy who is ordering the troops into Iraq and going on about bravery etc is actually a coward who joined the national guard deliberately so as to not be sent to Vietnam and then on top of that still went AWOL for 17 months do you not think that is newsworthy?

I haven't watched much American news recently so I can't tell if you're correct but is it really a case of bias or are they just  truthfully reporting his complete f**kups?

[ionia23]

Originally posted by MatthewPapa
These days there doenst seem to be one reliable news source.  

Al-Jazzera.

[Rictor]

They're getting an English language TV station I believe before the end of the year, which will be available in the US. Though with only basic (that is, until I pay someone some money), not much use to me...

[Deepblue]

As soon as I saw the title, I knew what this thread was about. I don't know what to say that has already been said though, seems CBS is in very hot water.

[Kosh]

Originally posted by MatthewPapa
I read about this somewhere. Its not news to me that CBS is biased against Bush. Ever since the 2000 election I have held the opinion that all major media organizations except for FOX (7 out of 8 organizations) are biased against Bush. These days there doenst seem to be one reliable news source. Its amazing how differenct stories can be twisted to sound totally different than they actually are.

Maybe that's because they report things that the Bush administration doesn't want you to hear about. Fox is very pro-Bush despite their claims of being "fair and balanced" (which it is most certainly not).

[Ford Prefect]

I generally don't expect news to be entirely unbiased, but FOX is just masturbation fodder for the right. Their war coverage is like the 2 Minutes' Hate out of 1984.

[Bobboau]

if you think that fox is masturbation fodder turn on the freaking radio already, listen to Hannity when he isn't on the same stage as a liberal, or try on Michael "I'm in support of limeted nuclear strikes" Savage, in this glare you will learn that the acursed fox is actualy quite tame.