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Offline Kosh

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Reply #20 on: September 22, 2004, 11:44:59 pm
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apollo was the best ship in FS1, fastest craft with 2 secondary banks.



The Valkyrie can run rings around it. Apollo can't carry the Banshee either.

I am not sure what the excuse is for the Valkyrie being retired so long before the Perseus came out. The Apollo was old before FS1 even starts and is totally obsolete by the time FS2 starts.
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Offline Mongoose

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Reply #21 on: September 22, 2004, 11:56:06 pm
The Athena was a good ship; it was a shame you only got to fly one in one mission.  What I don't personally understand is why the Perseus is considered an "upgrade" to the Valkyrie; compared to the older ship, it absolutely sucks.  Normal speed is 5 m/s less, afterburner top speed is a whopping 15 m/s less, the afterburner recharge is slower, and the afterburner duration is much, much less.  That's what I loved about the Valkyrie; you could hold that afterburner all day and travel huge distances with it in a short amount of time.  With your engines boosted to full, it was truly amazing.  The Perseus doesn't even come close to any of these attributes; I never really enjoy flying with it.
 

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Reply #22 on: September 22, 2004, 11:59:02 pm
The Perseus had more armor (a lot more shields). But it has one HUGE advantage over the Valkyrie: It has a much better secondary weapons loadout.
"The reason for this is that the original Fortran got so convoluted and extensive (10's of millions of lines of code) that no-one can actually figure out how it works, there's a massive project going on to decode the original Fortran and write a more modern system, but until then, the UK communication network is actually relying heavily on 35 year old Fortran that nobody understands." - Flipside

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Offline Trivial Psychic

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Reply #23 on: September 23, 2004, 12:27:28 am
In FS1, I used to fly the Valkyrie every chance I got.  Now I use the Apollo because of its higher hull strength and the fact that it can carry more secondaries, in 2 types.  When the Athena becomse available, I fly that mostly, until the Herc comes out.  I then use the Herc for almost every situation.  Valk for missions with long-range bomber interception, and bombers for... well, bombing missions.  Same is true for Silent Threat, though I chose the Zeus for a couple because of their greater loadout.
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Reply #24 on: September 23, 2004, 02:22:04 am
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The Perseus had more armor (a lot more shields). But it has one HUGE advantage over the Valkyrie: It has a much better secondary weapons loadout.

Bah.  Who uses secondaries?   Real men use primaries :p.  I also don't care as much about the shields; if you can outrun every other ship, you don't have to worry as much about being hit.  I was just upset that FS2's interceptor was, performance-wise, inferior to its predecessor of thirty years.
 

Offline Zarax

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Reply #25 on: September 23, 2004, 02:41:05 am
The Athena is my all time favourite...
If i was GTVA i would have loaded it with Trebs and used it to kiss goodbye to anything below corvette class...
Used as an early ingame version of the Ares it owns anything with a skilled pilot...
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Offline Hellbender

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Reply #26 on: September 23, 2004, 02:55:22 am
Ah, bench racing lives!  :lol:
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Reply #27 on: September 23, 2004, 04:21:42 am
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The Athena is my all time favourite...
If i was GTVA i would have loaded it with Trebs and used it to kiss goodbye to anything below corvette class...
Used as an early ingame version of the Ares it owns anything with a skilled pilot...



The Herc 2 has a better loadout capacity and probably better armor (FS1 GTA fighters are mostly pretty fragile, except for the Herc), so why bother?
"The reason for this is that the original Fortran got so convoluted and extensive (10's of millions of lines of code) that no-one can actually figure out how it works, there's a massive project going on to decode the original Fortran and write a more modern system, but until then, the UK communication network is actually relying heavily on 35 year old Fortran that nobody understands." - Flipside

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Offline Zarax

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Reply #28 on: September 23, 2004, 04:23:43 am
Yeah, but the Athena is way faster...
And are you sure about payload?
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Offline Kosh

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Reply #29 on: September 23, 2004, 04:39:26 am
I'm not sure about a whole lot of things right now (brain = on vacation).


It does have better afterburner capacity, but the cruising speed and manueverability are the same. The Herc 2 can carry 24 Trebuchets. How about the Athena? Don't say it can carry XX Pheonix 5's, because that is comparing an apple and an orange.
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Offline Zarax

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Reply #30 on: September 23, 2004, 04:43:30 am
Herc: $SBank Capacity: ( 60, 60 )
Athena: $SBank Capacity: ( 80, 80 )
Well, it seems the Athena banks are bigger, at least table wise...
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Reply #31 on: September 23, 2004, 04:47:37 am
I didn't think of that. Then again it WAS a bomber and not a heavy assault type of thing.
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Offline Zarax

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Reply #32 on: September 23, 2004, 04:50:55 am
To me it's more akin to a F15E than a true bomber...
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Offline Kosh

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Reply #33 on: September 23, 2004, 04:54:43 am
Well, it was designed before the GTA started developing REAL anti-capitalship guns. I think the point of it's primary configuration was so that it could to down turrets of bigger capital ships. This way it makes it much easier for even a Fenris to nail it.
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Offline Zarax

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Reply #34 on: September 23, 2004, 04:57:39 am
Yeah, nonetheless it could accomplish a great variety of tasks...
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Reply #35 on: September 23, 2004, 09:51:11 am
Fighting fighters, which is very important. You cannot avoid combating fighters.
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Offline aldo_14

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Reply #36 on: September 23, 2004, 10:39:48 am
Jack of all trades, master of none
 

Offline Zarax

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Reply #37 on: September 23, 2004, 10:40:59 am
The Phantom F4 of it's era i daresay
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Offline mrfun

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Reply #38 on: September 23, 2004, 12:20:27 pm
Why you guys comparing it to the herc 2? The athena was retired before the herc 2 was deployed, they are different eras- although, they serve the same purpose, heavy assault, and the herc 2 is obviously better at it.

I was just playing the port, took an Athena and loaded it with avenger, flail and 40 interceptors.  Hit a fighter and get it in flail lock, then fire a pair of interceptors, you get a fast easy kill.  I would take this ship a lot except the Herc completely obsoletes it when it comes out 'cause it can do the same thing, only has 10 fewer misisles (using intercepts).  So you really only end up with flying the athena in like 2 missions.  Athena is a bit faster though, it's afterburner speed is equal to the Valk's (165).
 

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Reply #39 on: September 23, 2004, 12:25:57 pm
Meh.

We all love tha Athena.

It was beloved in FS1, and was missed in FS2, only because V never had anything quite the same in the sequal.
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