[Deepblue]

Setekhs theory is not new, I have heard it and arguments against it on the Bungie.net forums.

[Taristin]

Bah!

Spoiler:

That's the same as Stargate and the Ancients... And that 'false prophets' deal made me think it's a stargate ripoff all the more...

[Gloriano]

Nice theory and it makes sense, but i expect that there is twist

Spoiler:

(That ark is not in Earth

[NGTM-1R]

Spoiler:

I think Guilty Spark was talking about the Flood with that "survived to reproduce" line, due to the previous sentence's he said as context. Although I agree that your idea makes just as much sense, Setekh. Your overall theory, however, matches that of...well, almost everyone.

[Turnsky]

Originally posted by ngtm1r

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I think Guilty Spark was talking about the Flood with that "survived to reproduce" line, due to the previous sentence's he said as context. Although I agree that your idea makes just as much sense, Setekh. Your overall theory, however, matches that of...well, almost everyone.

[/B]

yeah but

Spoiler:

look at 343's reference of human history of "lost time", and both 343's and 2401 penitent tangent's referrals of the chief as a "reclaimer", and later in the game, guilty spark's calling commander keyes a "reclaimer"

[MicroPsycho]

So does anyone know when the good version comes out?

Spoiler:

PC=Good

[Taristin]

The best version is already out, but if you want to settle for a lowly 'good' version, you'll have to wait.

[MatthewPapa]

I am hoping they wont take away effects like they did last time. Damn that was evil. I dont care about the freaks with 400mhz processors and 64 mb or ram. They just need to release the darn game the way it is!

[an0n]

Humans probably used to be part of the ForeRunner era Covie races. Basically playing ***** to the ForeRunners and working as guards and lackeys.

The references to the 'Reclaimer's are probably similar to the Covie use of the name Arbiter. A great warrior, chosen to lead the armies in times of trouble - namely, when the Flood got loose.

[Setekh]

I don't think the Reclaimer references are quite like the title 'Arbiter'. Arbiter seems more likely to be a synonym for 'Judge', as in the Judges of ancient Israel - going around and meting out justice, often in quelling military threats. That sounds like it would be the Biblical allusion, anyway.

Yeah Thorn, agreed. Just a matter of time now.

[aldo_14]

Spoiler:

If the Halos' were fired 100,000 years ago (IIRC), how the hell did anything survive to become the various human and convenant races?

I could understand it if, for example, Earth was designated as an 'ark' world which would escape the range of the weapon - but anything else large enough to become intelligent should have been wiped out and required a few million years to evolve into something intelligent enough to be the level of the Covenenant.

Halo (&2) has a good story.  Not too bothered about the game itself, but I would like to see the rundown.

Oh, and apparently the end credits on Legendary hint at Halo 3 - or something - on February 9th.

[Setekh]

Spoiler:

Yeah, good point Aldo. Still, you gotta wonder about all the references to the connected past that the game makes to humanity and the Forerunner. Maybe the Master Chief went back in time to activate Halo the first time, making the association that 343GS later recognised - that would be in keeping with the game's similarity to Marathon, Bungie's other FPS.

I think that was pretty much debunked, unfortunately. Would have been nice.

http://halo.bungie.org/oldnews.html?item=11345

[aldo_14]

Originally posted by Setekh

I think that was pretty much debunked, unfortunately. Would have been nice.

http://halo.bungie.org/oldnews.html?item=11345

So is that text actually in the credits, though?

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I've never liked the idea of a concrete human-forerunner relationship, as in a direct genetic relationship.  It's unlikely that forerunners, IMO, could have ended up on Earth and yet left no trace(or did they?) of their technology.

Of course, there's another question - were the Halos' ever actually fired?  Assuming it's valid, there's no corresponding Earth extinction event in known history.  If Earth was an 'ark' world, fair enough - but there's still the Covenant races' issue. (of course, if Earth was designed / designated / built to survive, it would explain why a human was required to fire it.... maybe 'reclaimer' means not reclaiming the key, but reclaiming solitude & security over the galaxy)

And if the Halos weren't fired, then are they even for cleansing the galaxy?  Does anyone beyond Guilty Spark say they were fired - because he/it is obviously gone nuts.

Of course, it's pretty much using biblical imagry anyways.  The flood comes, and wipes away life.  One ark (Earth?  A forerunner ship?) survives to carry life until the flood subsides.  Except that ark wasn't the 'ark of the covenant', was it?  

IIRC it says somewhere in Halo2 (I've read spoilers) that the Flood are sort of an embodiment of sin.  Which would imply that the 'ark' might contain the opposite of that... something to defeat the Flood, or to stop them?  I dunno, because I don't exactly how and where the 'ark' is mentioned in the game, only that the Covies apparently want it.

EDIT; after all, didn't the Forerunners keep the Flood alive for a reason?

[an0n]

I need maps.

I keep getting lost.

Anyone?

[Deepblue]

Apparently that text is not in the credits.

[Deepblue]

Downloadable content coming soon.

[Jetmech Jr.]

Originally posted by aldo_14


So is that text actually in the credits, though?

Spoiler:

I've never liked the idea of a concrete human-forerunner relationship, as in a direct genetic relationship.  It's unlikely that forerunners, IMO, could have ended up on Earth and yet left no trace(or did they?) of their technology.

Of course, there's another question - were the Halos' ever actually fired?  Assuming it's valid, there's no corresponding Earth extinction event in known history.  If Earth was an 'ark' world, fair enough - but there's still the Covenant races' issue. (of course, if Earth was designed / designated / built to survive, it would explain why a human was required to fire it.... maybe 'reclaimer' means not reclaiming the key, but reclaiming solitude & security over the galaxy)

And if the Halos weren't fired, then are they even for cleansing the galaxy?  Does anyone beyond Guilty Spark say they were fired - because he/it is obviously gone nuts.

Of course, it's pretty much using biblical imagry anyways.  The flood comes, and wipes away life.  One ark (Earth?  A forerunner ship?) survives to carry life until the flood subsides.  Except that ark wasn't the 'ark of the covenant', was it?  

IIRC it says somewhere in Halo2 (I've read spoilers) that the Flood are sort of an embodiment of sin.  Which would imply that the 'ark' might contain the opposite of that... something to defeat the Flood, or to stop them?  I dunno, because I don't exactly how and where the 'ark' is mentioned in the game, only that the Covies apparently want it.

EDIT; after all, didn't the Forerunners keep the Flood alive for a reason?

[/B]

Spoiler:

As for the 'embodiement of Past sins," the Gravemind said that. Also, apart from Guilty Spark, Penitent Tangent also said that the Halo's were fired once, something along the lines of 'This station has a successful fire ratio of 100,000,000 (or something) simulated, and 1 actual..."

[Deepblue]

Anyone unlocked foundation/found the skulls here?

[Taristin]

Err... I have no idea...

[Gloriano]

Originally posted by Deepblue
Anyone unlocked foundation/found the skulls here?

I did unlock foundation but didn't find skull yet