[Flaser]

Power is more or less abundant - so why not use fancy neon lights for illumination - or lack of. Space is more of an issue, so I think the bar depicted in the cutscene is on an Arcadia.

[aldo_14]

Except the cutscene states it's on a ship in the dialogue.  I think it should be on an arcadia - that would make a lot more sense IMO - but it isn't.

Unless, of course, 'ship' refers to an Arcadia, which would just be wierd.

[Swamp_Thing]

Originally posted by aldo_14
I'm still trying to think of a sensible reason to have a pub on a military vessel, though.  Of course, the pilots being drunk all the time would explain a few things about the AI.........

In a word, moral! Every military ship in today´s Navy has several bars inside it. One+ for the enlisted and low rank seamen, one+ for sargeants, and one for officers. And you ARE allowed to drink alcohol, you just aren´t allowed to get drunk, that´s all.
I used to work in those bars, i was in charge of repairing the coffee machines, dish washers and everything else in Navy bars. We worked for the Navy full time. My partner spent more time drinking scotch at the bars than he spent working on them. Obviously, i kept him company!

[aldo_14]

What, a bar with puggies and everything?  I mean, I figured there would be whatever the naval equivalent of a mess hall was, and obviously the officers bit, but I never reckoned there would be a full-on dedicated drinking establishment.

[Swamp_Thing]

What´s a "puggie"?

[Goober5000]

Originally posted by aldo_14
But do they have a dedicated pub for it, with neon lights et al?

*smacks aldo*

Et al is used for people.  You want et cetera.

[aldo_14]

Originally posted by Swamp_Thing
What´s a "puggie"?

http://members.lycos.co.uk/maevedixon/maeve/puggies.html

[Carl]

Originally posted by Swamp_Thing
seamen

now that that's out of the way:


MREs could work. they may not be classy, but they are real food, and you can store them forever. 3 MRES a day for a crew of 10,000, you'd need a 50 foot by 50 foot wall of them to last you a day.

[NGTM-1R]

An Orion's crew and its physical dimension mean it amounts to a small city, really. It makes perfect sense they'd have a bar.

I imagine the punishments for showing up drunk for your watch are pretty ferocious. That's how the Royal Navy does it.

[Kie99]

713|744|2023, the dimensions of an orion in metres, you could store a lot of food in that thing.

[aldo_14]

You need to store a lot of people, computers, munitions, power cabling and fighters in it too, though.

Can someone enlighten me on the size / crew ratio of an average submarine?

[Swamp_Thing]

Originally posted by Carl


now that that's out of the way:

No, it´s not. You must be thinking of "semen", wich is that milky stuff you find in your shorts in the morning.
"Seamen" is the conjugation of sea+men, men from the sea.
Don´t you feel silly now?

[Liberator]

Last I heard, aldo, a standard US attack sub has a crew at or around 80 and cruises for about 3 months at a go.

[aldo_14]

What size is it, though?  I'm thinking of the cubic dimensions.....

[Eishtmo]

Originally posted by Swamp_Thing


In a word, moral! Every military ship in today´s Navy has several bars inside it. One+ for the enlisted and low rank seamen, one+ for sargeants, and one for officers. And you ARE allowed to drink alcohol, you just aren´t allowed to get drunk, that´s all.
I used to work in those bars, i was in charge of repairing the coffee machines, dish washers and everything else in Navy bars. We worked for the Navy full time. My partner spent more time drinking scotch at the bars than he spent working on them. Obviously, i kept him company!

Unless it changed very recently, not the US Navy.  They don't allow alcohol on ship at all and haven't since WWI.

The size of a US attack sub in cubic meters is approx. 12,678 m^3  (115x10.5x10.5).  Exact figures vary per ship, and this is a simple box, where the sub is actually more a tube.  Comparing them to an Orion is a bit of a problem given that the Orion is the shape of a pointing finger (or whatever you pervs come up with), which is also not a box.

[Knight Templar]

Not a box, but a rectangle.

[NGTM-1R]

The Royal Navy still allows alcohol onboard ship, but they are one of the last.

Given the apparent lack of creature comforts on an Orion, however, I imagine they have to distract the crew somehow from just how bad their life is.

[Swamp_Thing]

Originally posted by Eishtmo


Unless it changed very recently, not the US Navy.  They don't allow alcohol on ship at all and haven't since WWI.
 

Then i´m sorry for you guys, and all those poor funless seamen out there...

Our navy allows alcohol, but you can´t drink while on duty and heavens forbidd if the catch you drunk.
Also, wine drinking is actually advized while at sea, because of its properties. It even prevents the human system from absorbing so much radiation, in nuclear powered ships obviously. Wine also prevents some desieses, like "scurvy" or what the hell its called in english (Escorbuto). That desiese that seamen used to get from not ingesting enough fruit and vegetables. Whatever...

[aldo_14]

Scurvy is called scurvy in English.
(Caused by not having enough vitamin C; I'm not sure why wine would have any particular advantage over any other preventative measure, though.)

[kasperl]

Well, at least it's alcohol...

And it's a lot easier to keep then fresh veggies.