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Before you perpetuate some antique sterotype based on events half a damn century in the past, come down here and check it out!   Frickin hell!!!!!!!!   Do we have racists?  


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I am sick to death of people assuming things about my home.  Nobody I know is a racist.  Some of the Old Timers have a few stereotypes that they mutter under their breath, but the Klan doesn't exist as such around here.


Uh huh, no more KKK, replaced by homophobic conservatives, such as yourself.
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Liberator: if you don't want those stereotypes to perpetuate don't prove their validity
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Well no ****, sherlock. If you don't care what goes on in their lives, then why give them a reason to sue? Why not just leave them the **** alone and give them the same respect as any other human being and let them be on their merry way? If every person who hated homosexuals (I'll refrain from using "bigot" at the moment) would do that, we'd have no problems with this ****.

You're allowed to dislike people as much as you want, but the moment you infrindge upon their basic rights as citizens/people, you lose all grounds.


are we talking about gay marriage?  or just gay (civil) rights in general?

 

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ohk.  cause as far as i knew (now keep in mind i haven't kept up with the whole "anti-homosexual" views the last few years) the main reasons people wanted to ban gay marriage were not because of civil rights, it was because marriage always has been between man and woman, and they want to keep it that way, because of tradition, Biblical reference, and what have you.

 

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it was because marriage always has been between man and woman,


a claim which is undeniably false, and the entire american anthropological society has officially called the president out on for the false claim
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are we talking about gay marriage?  or just gay (civil) rights in general?


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Only because you won't separate them.  No one is talking about taking away people's rights because their gay, and I resent you intimating that.

The people(myself included) who are against gay marriage are against it because it is sinful and against everything we know to be right and good.  

Marriage, Kazan, no matter how much you ***** and whine like a little doggy is inextricably linked to religion.  As a religious ceremony, no matter the governmental statutes, it is a covenant between the participants to each other and between the participants as a single entity and God.  How do you think God feels being maligned like that?

As I have said, repeatedly, I am willing to meet halfway.  I shouldn't, but I'm willing to compromise.  I'm willing to let them have a Civil Union as performed by and Officer of the Court, this would allow them the "benefits" of being married without defacing the religious ceremony.

Of course, I'd expect them to pay taxes like married people and enter into legal contracts like married people, you know, the myriad of no so beneficial aspects of being married.
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ok, why can't they just call it a marrage then? if it is legaly equivelent what's the matter?

no one is proposeing laws to force you'r church to perform or condone them. if however some other church a thousand miles away from you wants to perform one you are denying the legal status.
all this argument is about is legal status

right now I'm thinking maybe we can come to an agreement, I'd be willing to put in any and all assurences that there can be no church forced to go along with this or recognise this. just a Civil Union that the government calls marriage. wich entails the exact same legal responsibilities as a 'normal' marriage.

ok, what do you need to alow the government to enact a civil union that it calls a marriage?
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Only because you won't separate them.  No one is talking about taking away people's rights because their gay, and I resent you intimating that.


But that's just what your camp does by not letting them marry, opressing them in the military, in jobs, etc.

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Marriage, no matter how much you ***** and whine like a little doggy is inextricably linked to religion.


Granted, marriage, in a church, perhaps. But not the union of two people.

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 As a religious ceremony, no matter the governmental statutes, it is a covenant between the participants to each other and between the participants as a single entity and God.  How do you think God feels being maligned like that?
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1) You really think God prefers all this suffering rather than have a peaceful world where all his children, Homos or not, can live happily? :wtf:

It's not even your ****ing place to interpret how "God would feel."

2) I don't see you fundies *****ing everytime an Aethiest couple wants to get married. What's up with that? They proclaim that your God doesn't even exist, yet get married all the time. I'd consider that a greater sin than a bit of anal action.

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As I have said, repeatedly, I am willing to meet halfway.  I shouldn't, but I'm willing to compromise.  I'm willing to let them have a Civil Union as performed by and Officer of the Court, this would allow them the "benefits" of being married without defacing the religious ceremony.

Of course, I'd expect them to pay taxes like married people and enter into legal contracts like married people, you know, the myriad of no so beneficial aspects of being married.


How ****ing generous of you, meeting "halfway" and all. :doubt: Though your attitude about it is retarded, I can't say I disagree. Let Gays marry and let them do it in some place other than a church, or leave it to the specific churches to decide if they want to allow the marriage ceremony or not. Not the State, not the Nation.
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ok, so what you are worried about is "defacing the religious ceremony". if the law ensured a church's right to deny or not agnoledge a gay marriage (ie there is no way you would ever have to worry about one being held at your church), whould this be acceptable.
if the law allowed you to not recognise it (unless you were there boss in wich case you would have to handel insurence and tax things as if they were married, but otherwise didn't effect you)?
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All right, just about everyone on this whole board has to come out of the closet, since you seem to warp just about every thread into a pro-gay-marriage bashfest.  What is it with you people? :rolleyes:

 

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ok, I'm in a mood to try to work this out.
tell me what the legal sort of reprucusions from gay marriage you are worried about, and I'll try to find a way to protect you from these consequences.

I am working under the pretense that we all agree that what happens in ones private life is there own busness and none of us care about "what happens in someones bedroom"
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Actually, the question is: Why is the government doing marriages at all? A marriage is inextricably caught up in religon, that's where the word comes from, after all, and that's where the objections come from too.

Following from seperation of church and state, the government should only be giving out civil unions regardless of who is asking for them. Let the churches do the marrying.
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yeah, well lets get that inch before we go for the mile.
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Only because you won't separate them.  No one is talking about taking away people's rights because their gay, and I resent you intimating that.

The people(myself included) who are against gay marriage are against it because it is sinful and against everything we know to be right and good.  

Marriage, Kazan, no matter how much you ***** and whine like a little doggy is inextricably linked to religion.  As a religious ceremony, no matter the governmental statutes, it is a covenant between the participants to each other and between the participants as a single entity and God.  How do you think God feels being maligned like that?

As I have said, repeatedly, I am willing to meet halfway.  I shouldn't, but I'm willing to compromise.  I'm willing to let them have a Civil Union as performed by and Officer of the Court, this would allow them the "benefits" of being married without defacing the religious ceremony.

Of course, I'd expect them to pay taxes like married people and enter into legal contracts like married people, you know, the myriad of no so beneficial aspects of being married.


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I thought marriage was older than christ... :rolleyes:

From what I understand, marriage was supposed to be just the union of two people, but throughout the ages, as religions were being developed and becoming extinct, a need to reinforce the notion of marriage by applying paranormal power started to appear, to make the marriages "look better". And from there it went downhill to what we have today. Of course this might totally false, but I like to think about it like this. :nervous:
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 The amendment had two main parts: the removal of the separate-schools language and the removal of a passage -- inserted in the 1950s in an attempt to counter the Brown v. Board of Education ruling against segregated public schools -- that said Alabama's constitution does not guarantee a right to a public education. Leading opponents, such as Alabama Christian Coalition President John Giles, said they did not object to removing the passage about separate schools for "white and colored children." But, employing an argument that was ridiculed by most of the state's newspapers and by legions of legal experts, Giles and others said guaranteeing a right to a public education would have opened a door for "rogue" federal judges to order the state to raise taxes to pay for improvements in its public school system.


Oh my God!  The potential to raise taxes to pay for an improved & inclusive education!  We're dooooooooooommmmmmmmeeeeeeeeeeddddddddd!

 

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Please tell me this isn't some civil war hangover thing........