Originally posted by Mongoose
Kazan, as foreign and implausible as it may seem to you, did you ever suppose that Liberator has the opinions that he has because he chose them or because he feels that they represent him in the best way?
yes, but opinions should be based upon REALITY
Originally posted by Mongoose
The way you make it seem, everyone has to think exactly like you to have your approval.
no - they have to be based upon reality - even if they're conclusion is wrong
because they atleast the person is ATTEMPTION rationality
Originally posted by Mongoose
For someone who's incessantly obsessed with "minority rights," you certainly seem to enjoy infringing on the rights of the minority on this board.
and how exactly in the hell am i doing that?
I'm not infringing your right to have your opinion by arguing with your opinion
I am not proposing denying your right to have your opinion either
What I am proposing is changing your opinion, you don't have to you if don't want to: but you _should_ want to
Originally posted by Mongoose
I happen to agree with Liberator on many of his points; does this make me "brainwashed" too? Yup, I guess it does.
so long as you base your reality off your opinions then yes you are brainwashed
Originally posted by Mongoose
As much as you may scorn it, many people come to religious beliefs through a lot of rationalizing, thinking, and weighing of opinions;
they come to religious beliefs through THINKING they're rational, thinking and weighing the options
there are a great numerous logical errors that people make every single day, and don't realize it's an error in logic
wonderful things like fundamental atribution error, deying the anticedent, etc etc (those two I named by name because they're two of the most common used to support religion)
Originally posted by Mongoose
it's not all "mindless sheep" and "brainwashing."
yes it is - being religious fits every single primary psychological definition of a delusionary psychosis
furthermore religious individuals regularily distort reality to support their viewpoints --
you people think **** like "The earth is 10,000 years old" and think that scientists agree with you when we
know that the planet is somewhere near 4.3 billion years old
you people think **** like creationism, you people think that it's a rational decision to believe in something that you HAVE NO EVIDENCE FOR
(I know you think you have evidence, however everything that you think is evidence is because you're committing things like fundamental attribution error, denying the antecedant, etc)Originally posted by Mongoose
Maybe you should try learning more about the people you're stereotyping in such a fashion instead of jumping up and down like a petulant three-year-old, screaming "Christofascists!!!!11!1"
A) that "stereotyping" you think i am comitting holds up 100% to the group I am applying it to: fundamentalist right wing christians like you
I would like to remind that any christian who is not a fundamentalist that I don't mean to lump you in with the fundamentalists: they're just as much a threat to you as they are to me.
B) you whine, and act like im wrong when i call people like you "christofascists", i wish you were correct on that count.
The sad truth is you are christofascists
Why don't you go read the article linked in this thread:
http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,28132.0.htmlFascism is a far-right, extremely-authoritarian form of government, and that's exactly what you people are pushing for, and you are pushing for a religiously-controlled fascist state
If you were a student of history you'd know the scary resemblance between the USA in 2000-2004 and Germany during the initial rise of the nazi party
we're only missing one thing: as bad as an economy as they had
well guess what: indicators are pointing tword that horrendous economy becoming ours too