[WeatherOp]

Yea!!!!!!!!! We get to take over this country.

[Kazan]

answer the challenge WeatherOp

[Taristin]

Oh piss off. Both of you. This is the first time I've ever done such a thing.  I agree with his viewpoint. I disagree with his tactics.
And he looks just as bad as the fundies screaming 'fascist' every chance he gets.


You're not going to change anyone's minds here. You know that. So why do you keep trying?  Why is it so hard to keep your opinions to yourself?  And about hypocracy? Who's the one demanding that everyone else change their point of views? And then saying that he's not pushing his ways of life on others, again?


Yeah.

[WeatherOp]

And what challenge would that be,O Wise, and Smart, and
Mighty One.

[Vertigo1]

I guess WeatherOp conceeds to your challenge Kazan.  That ****ing coward.

[Kazan]

I don't scream "fascist" every chance i get - if accuse someone of fascism when they're acting like one, or assisting one

Why do i keep trying? Because I choose to

Why is it do hard to keep my opinions to myself? Because they are legislating their religious opinions

I'm not demanding you chance your point of views, im demanding you don't legislate religion, im demanding that you uphold the constitution of the united states.

How am I pushing my ways of life on others when i am merely demanding that EVERYONE's constitutional rights are upheld

[Kazan]

Originally posted by WeatherOp
And what challenge would that be,O Wise, and Smart, and
Mighty One.

Originally posted by Kazan
Raa: yep right in line with the way you're dealing with problems - RUNNING FROM THEM

You know what you're doing? It's called "obstructing free speech" -- it's something that fascists do.

So either cut it out, or continue and prove yourself the enemy of freedom


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WeatherOp: i'll repost it for the fifth or sixth time

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wow that's so antithetical to the constitution that it's not even ironic

it's pathetic

People like liberator are turning this country into a theocracy and are thereby violating the constitution - SO IM NOT GOING TO SHUT MY MOUTH

I'm going to exercise my 1st Ammendment right to free speech to make sure my 1st Ammendment right to freedom of religion is uphold and im going to exercise my 1st Ammendment  right to free speech to make sure homosexuals 14 Ammendment right to equal protection under the law is respected

[Taristin]

None of us are in any position of authority where we can change these laws that you hate so much. We're gamers. Sitting in front of computers on a thursday night instead of going out on dates.

If I do a search for 'fascist' or 'christofascist' how many times will it appear? There's using a word, and ther's overusing a word.

There's also a hateful overtone that drives people away. Like Lib. He may not have the best views in your opinion, but in his, they're right. Also, he didn't make the laws. He just agrees with them. I disagree with him 100% but it's his right to agree with whatever he wants. Just as it's yours to disagree.

You know what Kazan? You want to help us all so much? Stop cyberscreaming and get out into the real world and start making a change. And don't point me to your little website. The real world is not displayed on a monitor.

[WeatherOp]

And I am demanding that you get this thru your thick skull. EVERYBODY is tired of what you do.

[Grey Wolf]

Kazan, lay off.  Asking someone once is one thing.  Asking them repetitively without them answering is a sign that they do not want to get into this conversation with you, and that you should stop.

[Vertigo1]

Originally posted by WeatherOp
And I am demanding that you get this thru you thick skull. EVERYBODY is tired of what you do.

I didn't know you spoke for everyone.

Stop being such a pussy and answer the challenge or conceed.

[Taristin]

How was that a challenge? It was a rant. No question was even asked.

[Kazan]

Originally posted by Raa
None of us are in any position of authority where we can change these laws that you hate so much. We're gamers. Sitting in front of computers on a thursday night instead of going out on dates.

i don't subscribe to defeatest attitudes - i VOTE even if you don't

Originally posted by Raa
There's also a hateful overtone that drives people away..

that's the ANGRY overtone - and i have every right to be pissed that people are trying to force me to subscribe to their religious bull**** by them legislating it into law

you don't even notice that i am defending their right to believe it at the same time as making sure they don't force it on others

Originally posted by Raa
Like Lib. He may not have the best views in your opinion, but in his, they're right..

they're not "right", but he has a right to hold them - and i will defend that right, despite disagring with him vehemently

Originally posted by Raa
Also, he didn't make the laws. He just agrees with them.

he supports the creation of those unconstitutional laws, he helped the people who passed them into office, and he agrees with them - he is the enemy

Originally posted by Raa
I disagree with him 100% but it's his right to agree with whatever he wants. Just as it's yours to disagree.

and never have i said he doesn't have the right to his opinion - i've just said his opinion is wrong and the laws he is supporting are unconstitutional

Originally posted by Raa
You know what Kazan? You want to help us all so much? Stop cyberscreaming and get out into the real world and start making a change.

you ASSUME im not also doing political things in the 'real world' nice assumption

you ASSUME that online political debate doesn't affect the 'real world' nice assumption

Originally posted by Raa
And don't point me to your little website. The real world is not displayed on a monitor.

that's where you're wrong - assuming that online political discussion sites doesn't affect  the 'real world' has cost people their political campaigns

[MatthewPapa]

Kaz. here is the way I see it,
The beauty of America is that everyone  can express their views in the first place without getting screamed at and being called a christofacist when they do. If you are indeed trying to change someones opinion dont get so angry when they disagree with you.

[Ford Prefect]

I'll bet I have the biggest cock:

[Grey Wolf]

Correct grammar and a polite and erudite rebuttal will earn you more respect than incorrect grammar and hostile comments.

[Kazan]

MatthewPapa: however they are christofascists, you have the right to your opinion but not the right to have your opinion respected

for all my yelling at them i am NOT supressing their ability to express their opinion, nor would i - i am merely opposing waht they're doing to the country vehemently


I am angry because they not only disagree - they are trying to make  it into a law that i have to subscribe to their fundamentalist religion - their they're to enact their own version of the Sharia Law


YOU however WERE obstructing

[WeatherOp]

Papa is right Kazan. Like I said if you don't like Lib, or Raa or Me. You don't have to stay here, I know there is a website out there who wants a person like you. And yelling at someone and calling them a christofascists is just gonna get you HATED!

[Kazan]

im not the one making 5 pages of spam images to avoid having to answer getting owned for making a hypocritical comment

Originally posted by WeatherOp
calling them a christofascists

like i've told them - if they don't want to be (Accurately) describe as "christofascists" they should stop being them

[Taristin]

Originally posted by Kazan



i don't subscribe to defeatest attitudes - i VOTE even if you don't

You ASSUME I don't vote, just because I think you're going  overboard.  

that's the ANGRY overtone - and i have every right to be pissed that people are trying to force me to subscribe to their religious bull**** by them legislating it into law

you don't even notice that i am defending their right to believe it at the same time as making sure they don't force it on others

I notice you constantly telling him his OPINIONS are wrong, when by definistion, an opinion is neither right nor wrong  

they're not "right", but he has a right to hold them - and i will defend that right, despite disagring with him vehemently

 See above  

he supports the creation of those unconstitutional laws, he helped the people who passed them into office, and he agrees with them - he is the enemy

He has a right to support whoever he wants. It's the Supreme courts job to deem a law unconstitutional. Bring it up to them, and stop making Liberator feel belittled.    

and never have i said he doesn't have the right to his opinion - i've just said his opinion is wrong and the laws he is supporting are unconstitutional

And he says yours is wrong. Live and let live.    

you ASSUME im not also doing political things in the 'real world' nice assumption

I see an angry forumite, and a website... I have nothing else to base this on. Also note, that I never assumed that you aren't active in the real world. I onl told you to go out into the real world with the same vehemance you have here.

And try not to get yourself arrested. You have made several threats of physical attack on this forum alone. It's only a matter of time. I ASSUME...    

you ASSUME that online political debate doesn't affect the 'real world' nice assumption

that's where you're wrong - assuming that online political discussion sites doesn't affect  the 'real world' has cost people their political campaigns [/B]

Kerry lost because he was a ****head, looked like frankenstein, and never stood firm on an issue. He agrred with the president one moment, then counterred him when the opportunity arrose. He was a fool, and doesn't belong to be in office any more than the current moron.

And you really do need to lay off the personal attacks a bit. You are the kind of person that makes 'middle of the roaders' leary of liberals.